Settlements

[Industrious1]

Hello TATW community, first time post

Just wondering if anyone has a list of which settlements in Middle Earth can become Huge cities/Citadels?

Thank you for your responses.

[ChivalrousKiller]

Here they are:

Huge cities: Dol Amroth, Erebor, Umbar, Bree, Khand, Dale, Kelepar
Citadels: Minas Tirith, Barad-Dûr, Isengard, Moria



Welcome to the forums btw

[Ayleid]

Here they are:

Huge cities: Dol Amroth, Erebor, Umbar, Bree, Khand, Dale, Kelepar
Citadels: Minas Tirith, Barad-Dûr, Isengard, Moria



Welcome to the forums btw

You forgot Annúminas.

[Miroslav Klose]

Can't Mithlond become a huge city

[Industrious1]

Awesome, thanks guys.

[Narf]

Awesome, thanks guys.

Aye! welcome to the forum.

[Baron Samedi]

This is the one and only correct list:
Dol Amroth, Minas Tirith, Pelargir, Umbar, Mithlond, Rhomen, Barad Dur, Erebor, Dale, Isengard, Moria, Mistrand

You can't upgrade Annuminas to a huge city. This also is the case for Bree.

[ChivalrousKiller]

This is the one and only correct list:
Dol Amroth, Minas Tirith, Pelargir, Umbar, Mithlond, Rhomen, Barad Dur, Erebor, Dale, Isengard, Moria, Mistrand

You can't upgrade Annuminas to a huge city. This also is the case for Bree.

Has it been changed with the 2.0 update?
Bree was upgrade-able then, but not Pelargir and Mithlond

[Baron Samedi]

Has it been changed with the 2.0 update?
Bree was upgrade-able then, but not Pelargir and Mithlond

Look at which settlements have the ''huge_city'' resource in descr_regions.txt, located in: ..\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\base. There you will find your answer.

[ChivalrousKiller]

Look at which settlements have the ''huge_city'' resource in descr_regions.txt, located in: ..\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\base. There you will find your answer.

I know

And Bree has it!!!!!

[Baron Samedi]

I know

And Bree has it!!!!!

Do you play the most current TATW version? I play 2.1 (If I managed to install everything correctly that is ).

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Bree_Province
 Bree
 turks
 English_Rebels
 100 100 100
 greenway, forest, bree, crusade, no_pirates
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 5
 religions { catholic 7 orthodox 13 islam 10 northmen 60 heretic 0 numenorian 10 }

[Miroslav Klose]

I know

And Bree has it!!!!!

I also looked but Bree hasn't got it, and I have 2.1

[ChivalrousKiller]

Can it have something to do with my laziness, since I haven't installed the 2.1 patch yet?

Think we've got the answer there

[YefanStefich]

So, if you were to want a settlement to be upgradable to huge city, you just have to add huge_city in the descr_region.txt file? Or do you have more editing to do?

And then reset a campaign for changes to take effect?

[Kassandros]

I thought upgrading Annuminas to Huge City was part of the Arnor requirements.

[Miroslav Klose]

I thought upgrading Annuminas to Huge City was part of the Arnor requirements.

No. But Annuminas has to be upgraded to a Large City to build the House of Kings.

[Withwnar]

So, if you were to want a settlement to be upgradable to huge city, you just have to add huge_city in the descr_region.txt file? Or do you have more editing to do?

And then reset a campaign for changes to take effect?

As far as I know: yes that is correct but you wouldn't need to start a new campaign. But you will/might need to delete this file:

{m2tw install folder}\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\base\map.rwm

[Messremb]

Sheesh! Again with this stuff?

What's to debate?! Enter a settlement, click the buildings browser (the little icon with the magnifying glass on it) and at the walls section see what is available for it.

[YefanStefich]

As far as I know: yes that is correct but you wouldn't need to start a new campaign. But you will/might need to delete this file:

{m2tw install folder}\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\base\map.rwm

Hmm, so I added "huge_city" for the Celduin province (Riverrun), restarted the campaign anyways, deleted the map file you told me to, and now Riverrun can be upgraded to a huge city. So, I went back to descr_regions and added "huge_city" for everything, including the rebel settlements. Went back and restarted the campaign, and the same cities can become huge cities (in Dale, it's normally Dale), and still only Riverrun. Everything else stays as a large city at most. Did I do something wrong? Does the map.rwm file need to be in the base folder while I'm doing this for it to work?

[Withwnar]

When you start the game it recreates map.rwm if it doesn't exist. You didn't mention deleting this file after you made the "everything" changes - did you skip that step?

By "start the game" I mean just that, not "start a campaign".