Video of Random Shootings Iraq
so long my friend, it was a fun time.
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U sure? worked for me
so long my friend, it was a fun time.
Domesticus
That was sickening.
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Comes Rei Militaris
What is the point of posting this Mucker? Are you trying to make a political statement of some kind, or are you just trying to start a flame war? I dont even have to watch the video...someone explain to me the purpose of posting a video with no other purpose but to show people dying. We know what murder is, we know what war is...what is the point?
By the same logic, can I post videos from Faces of Death or Rotten.com of people decapitated and being hit by trains? To me this reminds me of peoples urge to satisfy some kind of blood craving or morbid obsession...
Dux Limitis
Works for me.
OMG those guys are crazy.
Who are they?
edit: oh, right.
A "trophy" video appearing to show security guards in Baghdad randomly shooting Iraqi civilians has sparked two investigations after it was posted on the internet, the Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
The video has sparked concern that private security companies, which are not subject to any form of regulation either in Britain or in Iraq, could be responsible for the deaths of hundreds of innocent Iraqis.
Dux Limitis
You don't actually see anybody get killed, RZZZA.
You see people shooting at cars but it's not clear what happens to the drivers. (some walk away, that's all I can see)
i think rzzza is asking what is meant to be discussed as a result of this video. just go to ogrish.com and you can see plenty of iraq deaths if thats what you really want to see.
judging from this video, it dosent seem like these people are trying to kill anybody. they just want to shoot up your car for some reason.
The Colonel
Oh that makes it so much better "I'm not trying to kill you, I just like spraying your car with bullets"...judging from this video, it dosent seem like these people are trying to kill anybody. they just want to shoot up your car for some reason.
I'm not sure what exactly this video is showing us, but if there are really security guys driving around randomly shooting at vehicles, that's really sad and speaks for the security situation of this country.
Praepositus
That is precisely what happens when functions as vital as security are sold out to private companies and here isn't so much as a semblance of punishment for the guilty.
Tech *********
In case you guys haven't figured it out yet....mucker is/was a troll. Suspended yesterday for just such actions in another thread. Other threads that he has started have already been closed. Can someone close/delete these pointless threads by Mucker?
Not to mention, there was already a thread about this here
Last edited by Pent uP Rage; November 30, 2005 at 07:56 PM.
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Honnête Homme.
methinks something went horribly wrong when you copypasted your link, cause this has nothing to do with Iraq...Originally Posted by Pent uP Rage
Child of War
Pent up, your link has nothing to do with this video.
I'm not exactly sure what is going on in the footage, other than they are shooting vehicles that come too close to their own. I hesitate to say they are doing it for fun. More likely, they are in a marked car and it is common knowledge to stay x meters away or be fired upon, considering the insurgents propensity to use car bombs. Perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps they are just twisted psychopaths who want to kill random people. But in reality, they are probably just men who wanted that paycheck enough to take on a violent and dangerous job, and have to resort to such extreme measures because of the uncertainty of the situation in Iraq.
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United States Marine as of 3/31/2006
Darkness is the light
Yeah, have fun apologetics.
In a couple of situations, they don't seem to shoot to kill, hitting (targetting?) not the driver side, but the front of the car, or the right side of the windshield, and there is no front seat passenger to be seem. They are throwing a smoking device out of the car. Don't know what this is, for a smoke grenade it does not make enough smoke I guess. This could very well be a warning for the people in the car down the road.
But who says they want to shoot to kill? They shoot up cars, "for security reasons" and don't care about the sandniggers inside.
In other situations, they are firing from a distance. Nobody tells me that they can avoid hitting somebody from these distances with autofire. And indeed at one occasion the targeted driver hits another car and doesn't walk away. He seems to have been hit/injured/dead.
In the last clip, army humvees are passing as the guys in our car are toting their suppressed M4 of whatever this is on the side of the car and are in the process of shooting up someone.
1. In a dangerous situation, where a suspicious car gets too near, you hit the gas! Here, they even slow down to take a better shot!
2. They are in normal traffic. Cars get near all the time. You would have to have tremendous amounts of ammo to keep each and everyone at a comfortable distance. You have to constantly spray the road. It's frikkin impossible to achieve that. If this would be the case NOBODY would drive in Iraq. The chance you get a stray bullet are simply too high.
3. A marked car? Why not a sign in the window, combined with loudspeakers: KILL ME!
If this is a marked car and this is standard procedure (doubtful, see above), one wonders what the circumstances in Iraq are.
Rebel of Jesusland
Am I watching reality or a preview of "Grand Theft Auto: Allah City"....?
I wish some car shot back at them hitting the gunner in the head.
Last edited by Total Warrior X; November 30, 2005 at 03:22 AM.
SecureROM is stupid....
Citizen
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Last edited by Kino; January 17, 2007 at 02:58 AM.
The Colonel
Actually it's quite irrelevant what nationality these guys are, as far as we can tell they're PMCs and that's the point. Nobody in this thread has yet said anything about them being americans, so I wonder what you complain about.
But like pacsubcom I find this to be very irrational behaviour for security personell. They're supposed to quickly get from A to B, not expose themselves by shooting at cars. The idea that they would force other cars to keep distance by shooting at them is ridiculous as well, since they're moving over a highway with lots of traffic and themselves are a moving object. If all military convoys would do that, no iraqi would dare drive on the streets anymore.
Honnête Homme.
news outlets even specify "speaking in what could be a scottish or irish accent"...
Darkness is the light
That's why we can deduce they are not doing it for security reasons alone, but for the sheer heck of it. Probably they are indeed "allowed" to shoot if they find themselves in a dangerous situation and they see suspicious cars, in order to keep them at distance or stop them.
But these guys seem to interpret "dangerous" and "suspicious" in a more lackadaisial way. While they don't really want to kill people, they don't especially care. And you know what? They wouldn't be there in Iraq if they would.
Btw. In the recent interview on Foxnews, Dr. Rice says definitevely (if you are able to decode politician doublespeak that is) that the US will stay in Iraq no matter how many security forces come "online", no matter what the Iraqis want, no matter anything. The US stays period
Go to www.foxnews.com , go to the video section, click on "special report", and then on condis "optimistic outlook". It takes 5 minutes of your time. Take note how this optimistic outlook totally contradicts anything we know otherwise.
If you want even more, see "Gen. Peter Pace", and watch how he is weaseling out of any question pertaining to leaving Iraq.
The Colonel
And for further reading consider this:
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/...tml?ESRC=eb.nl
Since it comes from a website called "military.com" I trust it's not too liberal.
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