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    Playing as Rohan capturing a dunland city, no matter what I do, Enslave them, Massacre them (My favorite ) or simply capture the city, It will ALWAYS revolt... Even if I have a full unit roster with a general.... Can anyone offer hints?

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    Destroy any religion buildings that give bonus's to Men of Darkness and replace them with Men of the West buildings, lower taxes and try and reduce culture penalties by destroying any other buildings and replacing them

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    Actually don't destroy their alignment buildings immediately. Build your own alignment buildings in order to start converting some of the locals to it, and bring agents and family members to strengthen the conversion, and then tear down their alignment buildings only when you have converted around half of the locals, otherwise you'll have something like 100 unrest.

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    See the thing is no matter what I do they have 100 Hate for me... D:. But I'll try to destroy most of their buildings.
    Last edited by Deathanitsu; August 19, 2010 at 06:15 AM.

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    Oh may you tell me how I can do that? Am I supposed to move my general into the area and stay there?

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    Oh okay, by the way, based on how hard it is to keep it from rioting later when I capture a Dunland city, is it best to massacre, enslave, or to simply conquer the city,

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    Conquering a completely hostile culture is supposed to present some difficulties. You need to plan ahead and start converting people to your alignment before you capture the region.

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    Named characters and agents have conversion 'powers'. Just move a combo of those into a region enough to have a significant effect; they don't need to be able to convert the region on their own, but when you take the settlement and build your own alignment building, the combined effects should be enough to overcome the effect of the existing enemy alignment building, so that people slowly get more loyal to you.

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    Considering that your Rohan. I would strongly suggest against Extermination. Purely because your characters will start to develop Orc-like traits more quickly which lowers your influence, not only that of your general, but local generals as well. If your not fussed about such things. Then any method is fine. But if your concerned about such things, both Enslaved and Exterminate give a chance to develop the afore mentioned traits.

    But Extermination is decent at a pinch. Dunland should have a decent population growth meaning that you'll be able to get training men soon enough. A bit of a double back on my previous statement. I would keep the Dunland only morale buildings, like mud pits, execution squares ect and if there is any Orc Pits present those are a good way to get a settlement health bonus if they are gone, (no use to Rohan)


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    A good trick is also to have a spy and an assassin with your major conquering force.
    They usually have a bit of conversion power, and getting a spy inside the city is always good.

    Then use the assassin to burn down their religious building the same turn you attack.
    Burning buildings is way easier than assassinating generals.

    That way, you get rid of the conversion bonus to their religion, without getting the population pissed at you because you burned down their temple.
    Basically, the followers of the religions that doesn't have their temple, is upset about it. So once your religion starts getting followers, they will start getting pissed about you having the wrong temple. So it's all about finding the right point where you switch the temple.
    Also, I think you get a small disadvantage if the citys religion differs from your factions main religion, and another disadvantage if your guvernor has a different religion from the citys religion.


    Another little trick is to capture a city with an army that doesn't have a general, and having no generals in the province. That way you can exterminate or enslave without anyone getting the orc-like trait (which is -3 influence I think).
    Also, enslave works like this. It spreads out the "slaves" (half the enslaved citys popultion) equally over all your other cities that have a guvernor.
    So by moving generals out of your bigger cities that don't need any more population, and just have a general in the smaller settlements that needs to grow, you can channel all the slaves there.
    It is enough to just move the general out of the city, how far away he is, is of no consequence, so you move them out right before you attack, then move them back in again.

    Also, to keep cities calm, garrisoning the city make the troops "police" the population. The more troops you have, the more effective it is, but the more population there, the less effective it is.
    Quality of troops is inconsequential, it's all about numbers, so a cheap large militia unit is the best thing.
    You can also "decrease" the population in the city by recruiting, soldiers are deducted from the citys population, so if you queue up large units, you can reduce the population with up to 1000 people or more (of course depending on what unit sizes you play with). Something that can make a big difference. And you can remove them from the queue to get your money and population back whenever you want.

    Nasty tricks also include capturing a city, exterminating the population, moving your units out of the city and hope that your enemy retakes it before it has time to rebel (and create more units). Then you attack it again, exterminating again. A double exterminate should depopulate a city very effectively.
    Last edited by Nehcrum; August 19, 2010 at 11:48 AM.

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    Default Re: Whenever I capture a city

    Thank you everyone for your help, I actually took over a city without it rebelling again Now the Dunlands are going to be in Rohan arms within 6 years

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