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    One of my generals (one of the "good" one actually) got this trait "Unleashed ambition" which according to explanation "significantly decreases loyalty and troop morale". I looked it up in traits file but couldn't find it or another trait it is related. What is the exact name of this trait so I can remove it, I hate it when my good generals/family members gets harsh negative traits for no reason.
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    Default Re: Trait help

    not sure... Disobediant perhaps?

    does it not say the exact numbers of loyalty decrease?

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    Default Re: Trait help

    In export_descr_character_traits in data:


    ;------------------------------------------
    Trait Far_Loyalty
    Characters family
    AntiTraits Near_Loyalty

    Level Tempted
    Description Tempted_desc
    EffectsDescription Tempted_effects_desc
    Threshold 1

    Effect Loyalty -1
    Effect TroopMorale -1

    Level Tempted1
    Description Tempted1_desc
    EffectsDescription Tempted1_effects_desc
    Threshold 4

    Effect Loyalty -2
    Effect TroopMorale -2

    Level Tempted2
    Description Tempted2_desc
    EffectsDescription Tempted2_effects_desc
    Threshold 10

    Effect Loyalty -4
    Effect TroopMorale 2
    Effect PersonalSecurity 1

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    Default Re: Trait help

    Thanks a lot! And I guess it's about general being distant as it s called "Far_Loyalty".

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    Hmm yes. Ill keep looking at this.

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Far_Loyalty_trigger
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
    and not IsOnCrusade
    and not IsOnJihad
    and not IsFactionHeir
    and not IsFactionLeader
    and not FactionType mongols
    and not FactionType slave
    and DistanceCapital > 75
    and not Trait Far_Loyalty >= 10

    Affects Far_Loyalty 1 Chance 15

    Tada. They get it from being far away and not for a good reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Historydude View Post
    Hmm yes. Ill keep looking at this.

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Far_Loyalty_trigger
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
    and not IsOnCrusade
    and not IsOnJihad
    and not IsFactionHeir
    and not IsFactionLeader
    and not FactionType mongols
    and not FactionType slave
    and DistanceCapital > 75
    and not Trait Far_Loyalty >= 10

    Affects Far_Loyalty 1 Chance 15

    Tada. They get it from being far away and not for a good reason
    Makes sense now.. I got to learn more about all of these
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    Default Re: Trait help

    For future reference, if you cant find a trait in the actual traits file but you know what it's called in-game, look it up in export_vnvs.txt in the SS6.3\data\text folder. This file holds the text descriptions as they appear in-game. So for the Unleashed Ambition trait we have:

    Code:
    {Tempted1_desc}A wise King would either have this man put on trial for his traitorous thoughts or brought back to court to be watched carefully...
    {Tempted1_effects_desc}Significant loss of loyalty and troop morale on the field!
    {Tempted1}Unleashed ambition
    The name within the { } on the last line is the name of the trait in export_descr_character_traits.txt, allowing you to search for it to see what it does and what triggers it

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    Default Re: Trait help

    What's also useful to know, though, is the trigger for the ANTI-trait:
    Code:
    Trigger Near_Loyalty_trigger
     WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
     Condition IsGeneral
           and not IsFactionHeir
           and not IsFactionLeader
           and DistanceCapital < 25
           and not Trait Near_Loyalty >= 4
           and not FactionType mongols
           and not FactionType slave
    
     Affects Near_Loyalty 1 Chance 20
    So if you see one of your generals get "Unwatched by King" (the first stage of Far_Loyalty), you can send him back to the capital to regain his loyalty, or even let him stay close for a while to build up some loyalty.

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    Default Re: Trait help

    Ooh both are really good to know thanks a lot I'll try to gain more knowledge about these.
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