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    Default ROMAN LEGACY (From Cesar to the END)

    ROMAN LEGACY - From Cesar to the END - Its my Idea abot a new Campaign that also containts mods from here and also new ideas from me ( if this could be make is a question to the modders of this community pls give your oppinion or critics)

    So this Campaign starts 100BC (the birth year of Julius Cesar). If this Campaign could better be made for BI or RTW (1.3)would be decide by the modders and end 450 AD. One of the sons of the Iullii members would be called Gaius Iulius Cesar and be 0 years old by the start of the campaign. this Campaign would use the MM map and mod the Enhancement Pack mod for RTW and BI and also Attilas Skins. I think this is enough for a new map , units and also skins and features.
    The factions are all from RTW at the beginning of the Campaign. that would be changes during the campaign. Because we use the MM map would use the cities name to explain the start positions of the Factions in this Campaign from this map.In RTW we have 20 Factions with rebels i read that we could have 21 Factions in a Campaign in a thread here. Because that is my oppinion to implementate from beggining a new faction the celts from BI into this Campaign they would have also the Feature like in BI to build hordes, is also a available faction and it will start in Irland with 2 provinces (Emain Macha and Ivernis).
    We need for that a realistical Roman Empire that it was on 100 BC and that may look so : ( here a map for that) http://www.roman-empire.net/maps/emp...t/100bc-2.html
    So the Roman Senate would have all the Features from the Enhancement Mod and will hold only one Province : Rome
    -The House of Julii will start like in MM + hold Genua,Mediolanum(Capital)(and contains a Average Tempel Of Horse from Iberia ),Patavium,Salona, Tolosa,Emporion,Saguntum,Carthago Nova, Gadir and Bochorris(island).
    -The Scipii House also start like in MM +Carthago , Sicilia Island (complete), Sardinia Island (Caralis) and Halicarnassus,Sardis,Pergamum,Ipsus and Tarsus.
    -The Brutii House also like in MM + + hold Corsica island (Aleria) ,Sparta,Corinth, Athen,Thermon, Rhodes,Larissa, Ambracia and Pella (grecee,macedonia)
    -Carthago have nothing more in Iberia they have only Lepcis Magna and Hippo Regius + Cydaus.
    -Grecee(spartans) is a protectorat of Rome (Senate) in Chalcis.
    -Macedonia is a protectorat of Rome (Senate) in Mytilene.(Lesbos Island)
    -Dacia starts now in Sarmisegetuza(Capital)not in Buridava.
    all the others factions starts like in MM.
    to the other BI factions i think we could implementate them in the following way with a event like the Marian reforms event for the roman factions.
    For example : Scythia will be replaced with Sarmatia from the beginning and in 200 AD they can build the new units from BI for sarmatia and also hordes if this is not possible from beginning. the same way will Parthia replaced by Sassanidia , Numidia by Berbia, the Iberians (spanish) by the vandals, Gallic by the Franks, germans by the Allemans and the britons by romano-britons.
    For Romans we have to implementate a new Marian Reforms event the Constantin Reforms. then will the julii be the western empire and the scipii the eastern empire. The brutii will be the rebels from Romans (western). Also we have to implementate a global event the Christianity to can build the new Christian churches and to have the convert options.
    The following factions must be eliminated in the campaign that we can put the new ones in also with a Year event :For example Carthago will be eliminated by the player in 55 Ad . they will come back (Event) in HORDES like the Slawians for Example.Or the pontic like the Roxolans , the armenians like the eastgoths or the dacians as the goths. If the Carthaginians are not eliminiated the event will not happen and thats it. We will let the player decide what for factions the Ai will have in this Campaign from the pool of BI and RTW but it must be possible to implementate all the factions from Bi if the human player decide to elminae all the other RTW factions.
    I think with The Skins from Attila, with the Features and new Units by the Enhancement Pack mod and with the map and Mod from MM
    we will this be the best and realistical Campaign that we can mod for this Game.
    Oh yeah the Senate will not be available to play also not the rebels.And to the Targets....
    Its simple conquer 150 Provinces and Rome or hold it and let the others factions be your slaves.
    Whats your Opinion ???
    Last edited by Gaius Iulius Casar; March 06, 2006 at 12:00 AM.

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    Sounds like a big mod. If you could gather a team, it might be possible to do this....

    Oh, get a good name for the mod.
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    Yeah it will be a big mod. But i donīt think that we need so much time to modding it , 75 % of this mod is to implementate other mods or features and factions from BI and the rest is scripting. If you have a good name or idea then go on say it plz

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    Maybe Caesar's Legacy or Roman Legacy....

    You choose.
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    NO others Critics or oppinions !! So when I maked it so that i thinked it here will the mod works ??

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    Caesar is not spelt Casar or Ceasar

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    Their is the Italian [i]Cesar[i], but his full name is really Gaius Julius Caesar.

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    Now that finally MM goes with 1.3 i will bring out my campaign . I need help and if anybody wants to support me and has time then come

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    Pretty good idea. If you'd like some help from me with organizing a team let me know.
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    So i started with the mod and I need some HELP.
    I started to add the Provinces so that we can have a new realistic Roman Empire at 100 BC.
    I do that it works fine but i have some Problems and questions .

    1. I change the name of Marcus Julius (3 yealr old son of Lucius) into Gaius Julius Caesar. I have the problem that in the game the name appears only as Gaius Julius . Caesar wouldnt appear . Why ? or ist it better to put in a new character (Caesars father) and then him as a son and only with the name Julius Caesar ??

    2. How can I change the senate (first)missions ? Because when I start with the Julii i have the mission to take genua but genua is now already mine , also as scipii to take messana (is already scipii) and as brutii salona is also already in the empire ???

    3. The biggest Problem is to implementate buildings. At first in the MM campaign its a province called Cydamae with its town Cydaus.
    in the descr_strat of this campaign you couldnt find that province. I dont know why ?? Carthago and Athen starts with Imperial Palaces. Athen has a Imperial Palace and a big Theatre and its hold by the Brutii (thats ok ). Carthago has all the carthaginians Buildings at the last level of expansion. but if I put the province into scipiis hands (into the descr_strat) when I start then the game i have romans buildings no more carthaginians . But I want that it looks so that Carthago was conquered by the scipii and not builded by this. So I want that from beginning the Scipii hold Carthago but Carthago have all the buildings in carthaginian style. I let this "faction creator carthage " there but is not working. That is only carthaginian look on the campaign map but thats it . he haved roman buildings when i changed it into scipiis faction. How can i do that ??? also with the horse temple in Mediolanum I didnt have any problems

    4. It isnow possible or not to put protectorates factions fom beggining on the map. When yes how ? I try this out the Greek cities and the macedons are allied now with each other and I want that they are now protectorates of Rome. I did put the line in in the descr'_strat that they are protectorates of Rome but in the game they are only allied with Rome (Senate). Macedonia and also Greek Cities have now only one province.

    That was from the beginning of my first mod.
    I need also help and search for somebody to makes me the maps tgas for the factions so that every factions has now its start positions on the map.
    The name of the campaign I changed now into Roman Legacy. I need somebody that write me a cool description for that. I can help him with historical stuff.

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    To point 1.

    I tried it out i put the Name Julius Caesar in text/names.txt {Julius Caesar} also Julius Caesar . in the Descr_names.txt also i add for the Julii faction the new Surname Julius Caesar. Then I put a new general named Gaius Julius Caesar for the Julii in descr_strat like in the tutorial from Seleukos but everytime i tried i get a CTD with the err_message ( Bad Line canīt creat Character , named Character
    Is this the right gender ? ) What he tries to tell me with this error . what are he means with right gender ??
    This "Gaius Julius Caesar" character that iīve made was also in the relative line as the 4 th son of Falvius Julius and also with himself Aurelia and the son Gaius Julius Caesar in another relative line. For the wife and the son i have made an extra character line.
    Where is my failure ??

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    Moved.

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    hey i'm making a mod about the entire roman empire from 27 B.C.E. to 305 C.E. its Rise of the Roman Empire maybe youve seen it? here's the link http://s14.invisionfree.com/RRE?index.php?act=idx my mod is in really good production and has been since October 20 of this year
    Last edited by PyrrhusKillsCaesar; December 02, 2005 at 06:25 PM.

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    new progress : the correct startpoints of every faction is now completely
    The map would be that one from MM 2 including the mercenary units and the new symbols
    the settlements name have now more realistical names
    the win conditions are now completely for the factions

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    Are you planning to reskin some units in your mod? This is certainly what the people are looking for. Otherwise, you could certainly borrow units from other mods or ancient versions. I see a lot of potential in this idea. You have a team working with you ? If so, maybe you should post an exhaustive list of the members. It intrigues me. Keep it up

    Ach!

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    @achilles im planning to introduce some skins mods like atillas . but if you would make some new skins for this mod you are welcome. at the time I work alone on his mod but i have good support from dr. fox also īfrpm PyrrhuskillsCaesar. The new progress are that i bring borsooks enhancement pack to work with 1.5-1.6 also my mod.I implementate the night battles options like in BI. also i implementate the client kingdoms mod into it.here the info for it http://www.twcenter.net/downloads/db/?mod=517 . now i work to introduce the modding legions pack 1.3b skins into it also the cards .

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    The Julian Family Three are now not historically but a new one that contains historical correctly members of the julio-claudian family. Caesar father and grand father are now in with their wifes also likes caesar uncles like Gaius Marius or Sextus Julius Caesar.

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    Don't forget about the triumvirates... (create Pompeius and Crassus; Octavian Augustus, Mark Antony...)
    YES, I DO LOVE ANTIQUITY

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    @mirconius yes i will think about it but i dont wanna bring out a mod to concurate with RTR or Rise of the Romans . I want that this mod have the best options to play as is possible for RTW so that every player have more fun to play rtw and bi again but i dont wanna make a history lesson from school. truly i dont ignorate history (is also my hobby) but let this game play his way..... to virtually make your own history .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Iulius Casar
    @mirconius yes i will think about it but i dont wanna bring out a mod to concurate with RTR or Rise of the Romans . I want that this mod have the best options to play as is possible for RTW so that every player have more fun to play rtw and bi again but i dont wanna make a history lesson from school. truly i dont ignorate history (is also my hobby) but let this game play his way..... to virtually make your own history .....
    Hostory is my hobby, too . And, about the game, i have a suggestion for you: instead of scripting to create a new marian reform, you could use the old one, under another name (the Constantine reform or A new man Constantine the Great etc. ). But i think that more important than Constantine's reform is Augustus'. He implemented the imperial legions...
    YES, I DO LOVE ANTIQUITY

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