Oscar Wilde

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    Just post your favourite quotes from Oscar Wilde. I have recently become very interested in this man. he was an open homosexual from Dublin living in England, from the upper class protestant ascendancy of Ireland ( despite having strong irish nationalistic leanings ) and is known as one of the wittiest and best users of the English language.

    Here is a clip I found from the internet that actually creeped me out a little. Apparently it is from some mysterious site claiming it is his actual voice from the dead. A lot of people believe it as well which kind of caught me off guard.


    "Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them more ".

    "Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination ".
     
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    Apart from the witty quotes, he wrote some very entertaining plays. Some of them have been made into good films, too.
     
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    This one is the best:

    Never fear shadows, for shadows only mean there is a light shining somewhere near by

    Also

    Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious.
     
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    Pretty sure he wasn't an 'open' homosexual.
     
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    Some of my favourites ...

    The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it... I can resist everything but temptation.

    Work is the curse of the drinking classes.

    (When asked by Americian Customs) I have nothing to declare except my genuis.

    The cynic knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

    America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.

    And of course his last words.

    as he got ill...

    Ah, well, then, I suppose that I shall have to die beyond my means.

    As he lay dying...

    (to the wallpaper) One of us must go.
     
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    With the exception of Dorian Grey and the Importance of Being earnest works can anyone recommend anything else by him I should read?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    With the exception of Dorian Grey and the Importance of Being earnest works can anyone recommend anything else by him I should read?
    An Ideal Husband is good, especially the film with Rupert Everett et al.
    I found Dorian Gray somewhat distasteful though...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    I found Dorian Gray somewhat distasteful though...
    In what way?
     
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    The Ballad of Reading Gaol (poem) and Lady Windermere's Fan (play).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    In what way?
    The style is somewhat... sticky, with typical fin de siècle elements. Not really my taste.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    I found Dorian Gray somewhat distasteful though...
    Why?

    It challenged the hypocritical society of upper class England back then. I think it is great.
     
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    Dr. Croccer said:

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    Didn't he say something along the lines of ''I know why you Americans are always depressed; it's because your wallpaper is so ugly.''?
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
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    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Didn't he say something along the lines of ''I know why you Americans are always depressed; it's because your wallpaper is so ugly.''?
    Not quite he was asked if he thought that Americia was a violent country (this is just after the American Civil War), which in reply he said "“I can tell you why America is so violent, it is because your wallpaper is so ugly.
     
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    conon394 said:

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    I can tell you why America is so violent, it is because your wallpaper is so ugly.
    As much as I like OW as some who has been to England and seen Changing Rooms - he has no leg to stand on with that argument. British taste in Wall Paper is simply ghastly... If the American Revolution saved from nothing but that it was worth it I'll take a painted house sans wall paper any day.
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    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
     
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    Ahh but when he said that only the rich and the middle classes had wallpaper (in silks etc) , the lower orders only had bare walls, maybe a bit of whitewash.
    But to your point one can not help but agree, most wallpapers are bloody horrible....and you came all the way here and watched a DIY programme, was it raining? (oh yes, 99.9999999% chance it was).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    As much as I like OW as some who has been to England and seen Changing Rooms - he has no leg to stand on with that argument. British taste in Wall Paper is simply ghastly... If the American Revolution saved from nothing but that it was worth it I'll take a painted house sans wall paper any day.
    Damn wallpaper, nothing beats paint in a neutral colour.

    On topic, that's strange that Wilde has been brought up considering I've been watching a few related things here and there. Reading as well.
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    It's funny you mention Oscar Wilde, uncyclopedia references him as the source of pretty much every single quote on every article they have. A lot of them are really quite funny too.
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