Can you remove local governor ancillaries?

[recentiy03]

Is it possible to remove local governor titles? For instance, my current king is still Prince of Wales because I made him Duke of Caernavon but he now has a son of age who should take the position/title...is it possible to displace him as Prince of Whales or at least pass on the title and the corresponding estates for the 10% trade boost? Up this same ally, is the Duke of Caernavon always "Prince" of Wales, regardless of their actual position in the family being princely or not?

edit- actually, strangely the Prince of Wales title doesn't include any tax or trade bonus like most Earl or Count or Duke positions....but I would still like to know if you can remove ancillaries as to change regional rulers? I know such positions are "for life" but people can also be striped of titles before they die....

[Alpha Zeke]

Not sure about this if you are running bgr, but if you are NOT, then you can trade them by dragging them from the display with the card down to the unit card of the new generall in the bottom of the screen. You can remove them entirely by editing out the sections for them in the ancillaries section.

[Byg]

Not sure about this if you are running bgr, but if you are NOT, then you can trade them by dragging them from the display with the card down to the unit card of the new generall in the bottom of the screen. You can remove them entirely by editing out the sections for them in the ancillaries section.

It's the same with or without BGR.

[Heskey]

It's the same with or without BGR.

Yup. I always transfer my battle-King's traits to the heir before retiring the aging King back to the capital stripped of all his retinue, where he can die in peace.

[recentiy03]

TBH I don't know if I am running BGR or not....I thought I was because I selected it when I first ran setup but then I noticed when you run the setup.exe and select autowatchtowers it seems to unselect BGR for some reason...you can always select BGR again, but I am not sure if I remembered to do that...

The reason I am unsure if I am running it is because I tried to load a new game, this time I was sure I had BGR running, and when I click the Faction Icon 2 menus come up with information about my generals...I believe that is the BGR mod....except in my primary save, despite having ancillaries like "War Council Member" and seeing constant messages about Supply Lines and having individual governor taxes and fines nothing happens when I click the the Faction Icon, whatever that means.

Either way, I am gonna load it up and now see if I can drag traits, hopefully it works...


Edit- awesome, it works! Thanks! Now I can finally give my king London and make him Earl of Wessex.

Double edit - so it works for ALL retinue traits? Awesome...too bad I've probably let a lot of people die with valuble trade traits, oh well, good to know...the War Council Member trait says something like "transfer to another General if/when this person becomes Faction Leader" and I always thought to myself HOW?! LOL well, apparently BGR isn't as pointless as I thought...if I am even running it.

[Nalkarauke]

Yup. I always transfer my battle-King's traits to the heir before retiring the aging King back to the capital stripped of all his retinue, where he can die in peace.

I do the same, i think it is the logical step. the real process would be heritage of titles but, you can make that dragging to your son or official heir of it.

[Old Geezer]

If they are not transferable you can edit the ancillaries data file by changing the 0 to a 1. That way you can pass around a mistress too. If you are running Windows7, you will have to disable UAC to save the changes made to the data files in SS6.3.

[preachercheeze]

If they are not transferable you can edit the ancillaries data file by changing the 0 to a 1. That way you can pass around a mistress too. If you are running Windows7, you will have to disable UAC to save the changes made to the data files in SS6.3.

actually, you can just follow these simple steps and keep UAC on...

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...69#post7528469


and titles are transferrable... just have the giver and the recievers in the same army/settlement and drag the title/ancillary to the receivers portrait.... just as HistoryDude says...

[strife1013]

If they are not transferable you can edit the ancillaries data file by changing the 0 to a 1. That way you can pass around a mistress too. If you are running Windows7, you will have to disable UAC to save the changes made to the data files in SS6.3.

Trading a misstress Gross!

[recentiy03]

So what would be the reason this is no longer working? I was able to transfer the Prince of Whales title but now everytime I drag a trait onto someone's icon nothing happens...the Resupply Train retinue trait specifically says "The Leader may delegate his ressuply train to any other general" and yet when I drag it onto another general nothing is happening? Is that because the mod is being buggy as a result of watchtowers? Also is Earl of Wessex a position you can't transfer? I can switch Duke of York but not Earl of Wessex.

[Byg]

So what would be the reason this is no longer working? I was able to transfer the Prince of Whales title but now everytime I drag a trait onto someone's icon nothing happens...the Resupply Train retinue trait specifically says "The Leader may delegate his ressuply train to any other general" and yet when I drag it onto another general nothing is happening? Is that because the mod is being buggy as a result of watchtowers? Also is Earl of Wessex a position you can't transfer? I can switch Duke of York but not Earl of Wessex.

If your faction button is not working as it should do for the BGR nobles cost summaries, then as no other user has reported it I would say your campaign script is not working. To find out do something else script related like change capital and see if any money is deducted. This is all unrelated to transfering ancillaries though the supply train ancillary does depend on the script to function.

[recentiy03]

OK I just tested...my king DOES have 8 ancillaries, which is likely why I couldn't make him Earl of Wessex...I was also able to change my capitol and it changed me 4K gold, so the BGR mod is clearly partially working, the Faction Icon simply isn't showing the noble expense data.

[Heskey]

I'd say don't edit the files; certain retinue are stuck with characters for a reason, no matter how awesome.

"Fortune bestows the one, merit obtains the other" and all that.

And yes, Permanent watch towers and BGR are incompatible; I assume because watchtowers cost 200g in BGR whereas in Perm WT they're granted automatically?

[recentiy03]

I'd say don't edit the files; certain retinue are stuck with characters for a reason, no matter how awesome.

"Fortune bestows the one, merit obtains the other" and all that.

And yes, Permanent watch towers and BGR are incompatible; I assume because watchtowers cost 200g in BGR whereas in Perm WT they're granted automatically?

Well it seems like i have half the mod or something? Is that possible? Is it doing anything then? I have all of the War Council ancillaries and supply line stuff but nothing happens when I click the Faction Icon. I was confussed when it says "Raise Individual taxes" or "Pay Fine" because I didn't know how to do that...

[Heskey]

Not entirely sure mate. I think the supply traits are intergrated into RR/RC now. But yeah I'd remake campaign and DON'T tick watchtowers at all on SS_setup.exe?

[Alpha Zeke]

The War council memberships, the supply trains and such, all BGR. Any Anc that is transferable though is meant to be that way. Not all will be though (Such as Shield Bearer or Veteran Warrior)

[recentiy03]

The War council memberships, the supply trains and such, all BGR. Any Anc that is transferable though is meant to be that way. Not all will be though (Such as Shield Bearer or Veteran Warrior)

Hm, so yeah, seems like using auto watchtowers and BGR leads to a half-version or somehting...or maybe it is all there except the ability to use the Faction Icon, I'm not sure.

[Alpha Zeke]

Oh right I forgot a bit. Watch Towers and BGR are both in the group STRAT because they both edit some of the same files. You can't put them together because they are not compatible

[recentiy03]

Oh right I forgot a bit. Watch Towers and BGR are both in the group STRAT because they both edit some of the same files. You can't put them together because they are not compatible

Well watchtowers unselects when you select BGR but you can select BGR and then watchtowers (in reverse order sort of), which is what I did...so I have them both going but BGR seems to be missing the Faction Icon menu for BGR.

[Alpha Zeke]

My generals (Especially heir too king) are always too distant to give them, so they take them too their graves