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    Icon12 Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    Is it a good idea to have your hoplites out of guard mode when attqacking
    sometimes i take em out of guard mode and they just _BAMMM_

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    Ok, now I really feel stupid.
    What's guard mode?
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    Default Re: Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjabanana View Post
    Ok, now I really feel stupid.
    What's guard mode?
    When the units put their shields up and hold their weapons out so they brace for a charge or missle fire, or if they dont have shields they just put their weapons out.
    Last edited by jukeness; August 10, 2010 at 01:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jukeness View Post
    When the units put their shields up and hold their weapons out so they brace for a charge or missle fire, or if they dont have shields they just put their weapons out.
    They do that anyway. In guard mode they will stop following the engaged enemies if they rout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delta21 View Post
    They do that anyway. In guard mode they will stop following the engaged enemies if they rout.
    and hold formation

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    Quote Originally Posted by jukeness View Post
    When the units put their shields up and hold their weapons out so they brace for a charge or missle fire, or if they dont have shields they just put their weapons out.
    Thats not what guard mode is, guard mode is the shield icon in the HUD which, when enabled, means your units will hold their ground i.e if you tell archers to attack a target while you have guard mode enabled, they wont pursue the target after it is out of range. The thing you are talking about happens automatically when a unit is stationary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu. View Post
    Thats not what guard mode is, guard mode is the shield icon in the HUD which, when enabled, means your units will hold their ground i.e if you tell archers to attack a target while you have guard mode enabled, they wont pursue the target after it is out of range. The thing you are talking about happens automatically when a unit is stationary.
    thank you for answering him same thing that got answered over ½ month ago

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtScooter View Post
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    Default Re: Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjabanana View Post
    Ok, now I really feel stupid.
    What's guard mode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jukeness View Post
    When the units put their shields up and hold their weapons out so they brace for a charge or missle fire, or if they dont have shields they just put their weapons out.
    No.

    Guard Mode is a way to ensure that your units remains in their formation/position. When GM is on a unit in melee will allow it self to be engaged, but when the enemy pulls out, the unit will stand still and not follow the enemies. When GM is off, your units might persue the enemy units that has attacked them, breaking the formation.

    I always leaves my hoplites in Guard Mode. Best not have my formation broken, making weaknesses.
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    Default Re: Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    I only turn off guard when my flanks are covered and the enemy is at least slightly or fewer. It's fun to watch hoplites suddenly move an entire enemy stack by themselves and proceed to steamroll them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightEye View Post
    I only turn off guard when my flanks are covered and the enemy is at least slightly or fewer. It's fun to watch hoplites suddenly move an entire enemy stack by themselves and proceed to steamroll them.
    IK! its so awesome . im gonna let them off guard mode when im attacking

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    Default Re: Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    yea

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    Default Re: Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    AH! alot of people are viewing this thread but not posting

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    Well I voted when they are in guard mode. Otherwise they're like filthy undisciplined barbarians :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punic Hoplite View Post
    Well I voted when they are in guard mode. Otherwise they're like filthy undisciplined barbarians :p
    normal infantry die faster when in guard mode (get surrounded)

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtScooter View Post
    If you went to the Skyrim forums you'll see a lot posts about how it's somehow been watered down and hampered by money men making the decisions. Fact is, it's a great game and people still complain. It's the same thing as the TW franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaj4496 View Post
    AH! alot of people are viewing this thread but not posting
    its cause theyre either laughing or crying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hopit View Post
    normal infantry die faster when in guard mode (get surrounded)
    ah but they also hold the line and lose no stamina from melee combat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|9|Lord_Max View Post
    ah but they also hold the line and lose no stamina from melee combat.
    Sadly, I use that in taking the central plaza when the enemy is more fatigued than me.

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    Default Re: Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    Guard mode is of course best for phalanxes, but I sometimes turn off guard mode if the phalanx gets infiltrated by cavalry and are unable to properly get their spears out again.
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    Default Re: Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    Leave Guard Mode on, makes them more effective. You don't want them breaking ranks and fighting with sowrds any more than you have to

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    Taking out guard mode makes units more aggressive from my experience. They seem to have a little bit more of a push, but like Genius said, it can force their formation to break and their swords to be pulled out.

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    Default Re: Hoplites that are not in guard mode

    man now its 3 to 10 lol

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