Hint? He is British.
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Hint? He is British.
"Famous general without peer in any age, most superior in valor and inspired by the Way of Heaven; since the provinces are now subject to your will it is certain that you will increasingly mount in victory." - Ōgimachi-tennō
His Dudeness of TWC
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I guess another hint won't be a bad idea
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Noteworthy in the colonies.
"Famous general without peer in any age, most superior in valor and inspired by the Way of Heaven; since the provinces are now subject to your will it is certain that you will increasingly mount in victory." - Ōgimachi-tennō
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Sir Henry Clinton
"Lay these words to heart, Lucilius, that you may scorn the pleasure which comes from the applause of the majority. Many men praise you; but have you any reason for being pleased with yourself, if you are a person whom the many can understand?" - Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
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That it is.
"Famous general without peer in any age, most superior in valor and inspired by the Way of Heaven; since the provinces are now subject to your will it is certain that you will increasingly mount in victory." - Ōgimachi-tennō
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"Lay these words to heart, Lucilius, that you may scorn the pleasure which comes from the applause of the majority. Many men praise you; but have you any reason for being pleased with yourself, if you are a person whom the many can understand?" - Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
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Hint: Tudor England
"Lay these words to heart, Lucilius, that you may scorn the pleasure which comes from the applause of the majority. Many men praise you; but have you any reason for being pleased with yourself, if you are a person whom the many can understand?" - Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
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Tywin Lannister
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Very close ...
"Lay these words to heart, Lucilius, that you may scorn the pleasure which comes from the applause of the majority. Many men praise you; but have you any reason for being pleased with yourself, if you are a person whom the many can understand?" - Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
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Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk.
The uncle of 2 of Henry VIII's beheaded wives, whose weddings he had or had not orchestrated.
To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu
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Yes. Well done. Unfortunately I cannot give you your well deserved rep either.Originally Posted by realm56
"Lay these words to heart, Lucilius, that you may scorn the pleasure which comes from the applause of the majority. Many men praise you; but have you any reason for being pleased with yourself, if you are a person whom the many can understand?" - Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
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rep given
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This will be a little difficult so a clue to start this off: This man's family remains extant today.
To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu
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Hosokawa Tadaoki, the son of Hosokawa Fujitaka who was an important courtier in Kyoto. When Nobunaga took Kyoto the formerly prominent Hosokawa family attempted to revive their fortunes by supporting Oda Nobunaga. Hosokawa Fujitaka played an important role for Oda Nobunaga in the Home Provinces, while his son Hosokawa Tadaoki became an officer in Nobunaga's army. He is best known for not supporting his father-in-law Akechi Mitsuhide after that general killed Nobunaga. Instead the Hosokawa supported Oda Nobutaka and Hashiba Hideyoshi, the winning side. The Hosokawa were rewarded when Hideyoshi seized power. However their main feat came after Hideyoshi had died and they decided to support Tokugawa Ieyasu at Sekigahara. They were rewarded by the Tokugawa Shogunate with extensive lands in Kyushu and are still around today. They would be an example of history's winners; one of their members became Prime Minister of Japan in 1993. Though it should be said that the Hosokawa clan was around since the 1300's and wielded much power during the 1400's.
"Famous general without peer in any age, most superior in valor and inspired by the Way of Heaven; since the provinces are now subject to your will it is certain that you will increasingly mount in victory." - Ōgimachi-tennō
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Yes, you take this one.
To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu
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We'll start with a hint, or two: He began his career under Oda Nobunaga during the Sengoku Jidai.
"Famous general without peer in any age, most superior in valor and inspired by the Way of Heaven; since the provinces are now subject to your will it is certain that you will increasingly mount in victory." - Ōgimachi-tennō
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That would be the teamaster Furuta Oribe
To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu
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Yeah that is right. I wasn't expecting anyone to get it, especially not this soon without a few hints.
"Famous general without peer in any age, most superior in valor and inspired by the Way of Heaven; since the provinces are now subject to your will it is certain that you will increasingly mount in victory." - Ōgimachi-tennō
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Well, tea was a vital part of Sengoku era diplomacy so the teamasters would have been important people to have in the retinues of the various daimyos.
Here it is:
To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu
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Clue: This guy's burial was not straightforward at all.
To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu
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