"Bari"...we have a problem!

[Sassori]

A problem called "Khwarezmian" (I am not sure I got right); the worster Horde and the greatest nightmare ever.

Now: how on earth do I put them on their knees? the imperial cataphracted horses roll on like Panzers over my pikes, halbers, and heavy infantry; and the goulas (or whatever, that heavy infantry armed with maces) run like gorillas killing everything at their hand.

I need some tactical advices.

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[Alpha Zeke]

Someone else shares my plight as Siciliy!

My tactic was replace ALL border settlements with them with poland or some foreign nation, then make a ceasefire for lots of moooney.
THEN build norman cavs and knights and auto it, they win 5 times outa 6. for an odd number.

[Sassori]

man...I feel the pain, those guys are unstoppable. Sicily is my favourite faction and has lots of possibilities.

(but guess who will be the next faction I'll play?)

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Well....For starters. thank you for sharing, great pics, +Rep Now as to the matter at hand.

Good Lord did ya see that map!!!???? Declare the Sicilians a valiant and noble people and run like all "get out"....

If your bound and determined to put the K-Shah heathens in their place, Max Armour to your Italian spear Militia, back them {in the cities} by your Normans foot and Horse and start the eternal blood bath to save Christendom from the UnGodly...Pre-Mongols....


Post Scriptum: And btw K-Shah got an unreal and buffed out rooster like you've already hinted at. You stick with this campaign, you be a true war-time God. My poor nerves would be shattered and frayed...

[Sassori]

Well....For starters. thank you for sharing, great pics, +Rep Now as to the matter at hand.

Good Lord did ya see that map!!!???? Declare the Sicilians a valiant and noble people and run like all "get out"....

If your bound and determined to put the K-Shah heathens in their place, Max Armour to your Italian spear Militia, back them {in the cities} by your Normans foot and Horse and start the eternal blood bath to save Christendom from the UnGodly...Pre-Mongols....


Post Scriptum: And btw K-Shah got an unreal and buffed out rooster like you've already hinted at. You stick with this campaign, you be a true war-time God. My poor nerves would be shattered and frayed...

LOL! very encouraging!

[napoleonic]

easy : sneak attack through the black sea, conquer the 2 fortresses on the georgian area then sail east and take all their original lands

4 full stacked armies can take them down, that is IF (A VERY BIG IF) they leave their eastern lands empty

[Caesar Clivus]

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I dont often say this but Holy ing !!!

I've never seen the Kwarezmians go that nuts! Not to mention Lithuania occupying Russia and Norway going bunta! Very interesting campaign

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

easy : sneak attack through the black sea, conquer the 2 fortresses on the georgian area then sail east and take all their original lands

4 full stacked armies can take them down, that is IF (A VERY BIG IF) they leave their eastern lands empty

napoleonic nails the issue to the cross....+Rep Simplicity works best...

[Ichon]

I've seen Norway do that before when getting lucky in capture Belgium quickly and Lithuania sometimes get lucky as well if Novgorod and Kiev distracted with Cuman/Mongol/K-Shah.

Never seen K-Shah so large though... what turn is that? Longest I've played one campaign is about 180 turns. I've seen K-Shah beat Mongols hard but then usually Fatimids/Byz and them are in a nearly equal struggle for next 100 turns.

[Sassori]

easy : sneak attack through the black sea, conquer the 2 fortresses on the georgian area then sail east and take all their original lands

4 full stacked armies can take them down, that is IF (A VERY BIG IF) they leave their eastern lands empty

Good strategic advice, I only need the money to build up those armies and to stop them at Constaninople and most above all, to learn how to beat them on the battlefield. I guess a "tactical" peace is inminent...since Scotland is the gates again on my western borders.

For the "Chronicles" it was around turn 270 (1491).

This campaign saw several "anomalies" upon what other had experienced: for example, the Teutonic Order spammed all through Italy, besieged Rome and then moved towards France to spam terror. Not to speak about Ireland, who was extremely active (and Alas! forced me to destroyed them...)

[Lord Lancelot]

1)What of hordes are on Norway and Hungarian border?
2) What of hordes are in Provance ?

[Sassori]

1)What of hordes are on Norway and Hungarian border?
2) What of hordes are in Provance ?

Mongols at the North
Teutonic at the South

Not a real treat just one stack of a few units.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Sassori...

Congrats, you have pulled off a very rarely seen triple post... Now in other areas of the forum I would advise embracing the edit button for additions cuz the powers to be tend to frown on those that don't embrace post edits...




The edit button is found in the lower right hand corner of all your posts...

[Alpha Zeke]

i dont see why everyone is so exited! I see this more times then not on non-RR/RC!

btw, mega, i think you should switch too rr/rc. one confused, "wtf is a right too knight warcouncil blah" player too another, the game just becomes more balanced for me, and i dont think about why things work just that it does xD

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

i dont see why everyone is so exited! I see this more times then not on non-RR/RC!

btw, mega, i think you should switch too rr/rc. one confused, "wtf is a right too knight warcouncil blah" player too another, the game just becomes more balanced for me, and i dont think about why things work just that it does xD

Ya know.... your'e absoulutley right. They say SS6.3 about to get linked up though. Here's the thing...My clueless contribution to this place is kind studing the longterm behavior patterns of the AI and trying to throw that in a discussion if it might help.

That and you guys must have rr/rc. totally covered on that front. All in all you right though....you right....

Muslim militia is terrible, Italian militia is incredible. Spam.

Now lemmie see here..... I always thought Saracen Militia had better stats the Italian Spear Militia. Did I miss the boat on this one...

[TheColdTruth]

Nice empire Sassori! Keep us updated on what the Persians do, will they march to Athens again? or will they be halted by a select few! good luck and +rep

[Massive_attack]

Why is everyone so surprised the Khwarz took over half the map ? They always do that in my games. They bordered me as lithuania once after taking over all of the Rus and Cumans. Several times, i see them dominate everything. I once played a knights templar campaign, and ended up in a perpetual war against these jerks.

Some tactics for you: Like the other guy said, strike their homelands and other "interior" areas. They wont respond very quick at all, since all of their armies will be on the front, unless they either spot you or you got unlucky and caught a fresh stack just being prepared to be deployed.

Despite the great roster, the K-shah are still muslims, super muslims, maybe, but still muslims, and as such their infantry is on average lighter and comparatively weaker to your european heavies.

Muslim militia is terrible, Italian militia is incredible. Spam.

Get a max dread max command general. 9/10, the khwarz troops will be lead by a captain since their bloated empire just cant handle proper generalship. If you see a khwarz army with a general, beware of it. Trust me, your own maxed out general should rout the K-shah forces well if combined with a good stack.

The longer you can last, the better. Mongols come soon, and trust me, they bring the empire to its knees since they spawn in its core homeland region (read: next to no garrison) Also, you'll soon get gunpowder and plate units, and since the Khwarz rather lacks either of these, use them to great effect on the aforementioned trash muslim militias.

As an alternative to invading the Rus, taking egypt would help you a great deal, strategically, so long as you do it with several legions, a great deal of care, and a decent force of maybe.. three stacks commited only to watching for reinforcements from the east/holy lands (and no, you do NOT want to take the holy lands yet)

Finally, as a general rule, the Khwarz are always weaker on the northern/russian front. Their numbers are thinned by great distances, and the weak flaky troops they usually sport as auxilliaries become even more useless. Personally, I would wait untill the mongols come, then launch a massive invasion of the Rus via the black sea, and take as many settlements in as little time as possible. Perhaps gift some to lithuania if you cant hold them yourself.

From a veteran of K-shah lunacy to another, i hope this helps.

EDIT: Also, abandon asia minor and use constantinople/the Bosporous-Dardanelles crossings as choke points instead Funnels those armies in nicely.

[Alpha Zeke]

The stats may say one thing mega, but they could also be referring too the halberd militia or pike, who are INCREDIBLE at holding gates and the such from enemies, especially light armored muslim infantry or calvary!

God bless the forum where I can discuss the differences Muslims make in a game without being called a racist..

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

The stats may say one thing mega, but they could also be referring too the halberd militia or pike, who are INCREDIBLE at holding gates and the such from enemies, especially light armored muslim infantry or calvary!

God bless the forum where I can discuss the differences Muslims make in a game without being called a racist..

the halberd militia or pike, who are INCREDIBLE at holding gates

Really... Are you for real? With those wuuzzy stats they got? Go figure...How does the Volgier do at it then? One would think they kill everything storming a castle????

God bless the forum where I can discuss the differences Muslims make in a game without being called a racist

True Dat, true dat...{jihad assult squad....yo}

[k/t]

God bless the forum where I can discuss the differences Muslims make in a game without being called a racist..

First of all, it's Allah.

Second of all, if anyone calls you a racist while discussing Muslims, he's an idiot, since a Muslim is the adherent of a religion.