Hybernia: Total War Proposal

**chris7ian** · July 31, 2010, 07:54 PM

I was thinking that since Ireland gets left out of a lot of mods because of their lack of a unified front during the middle ages. Why not have a Ireland mod featuring the many Kingdom's and Fiefdoms of Ireland, and scripted Viking Invasions, and later Norman?

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EDIT: Also I would like to have a new type of unit. Like a generals bodyguard unit but a separate unit then the general. The Cú Faoil unit or Irish Wolfhounds. "During the English conquest of Ireland, wolfhounds were trained by the Irish for war; their job was to catch armoured knights on horseback and separate them from their horses."

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**PhilipO'Hayda** · August 01, 2010, 02:30 AM

I think there's lots of total war mods

Kingdoms of the Isles
Princes, Kings and Heroes
The Last Kingdom
Arthurian: Total War (BI)
and also put in Gods & Fighting Men: Total War in to the Arthurian search.

and if you went a other Irish mod, theres notting stoping you making one.

**chris7ian** · August 01, 2010, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by philipOhayda

I think there's lots of total war mods

Kingdoms of the Isles
Princes, Kings and Heroes
The Last Kingdom
Arthurian: Total War (BI)

and if you went a other Irish mod, theres notting stoping you making one.

I haven't played these all so I not making any judgments about their authenticity. I would like to play a mod focused only on Ireland during the time period of Brian Boru through to the English conquest. As Peter pointed it out you could have High Kings elections, as well as various other features scripted in. Also you would have more than just Connacht and Munster. On the map I provided shows a possible 17 factions and some other aren't even mentioned like Thomond.

Viking invasions could be scripted in as well as Norman increasing in difficulty as the game progresses to where Ireland must unify to be able to defeat the foreigners or succumb to their oppressive rule. I for one would think this would be an amazing mod and one that could increase the authenticity of medieval irish military units. In the mods I have played the Irish military was lacking unit types, play the whole game with one type of archers. I blame vanilla kingdoms for this.

I do not have the modding knowledge or tools to build this mod by myself. I was making a proposal to the community so If others were interested in such a mod that they might be able to post here and be able to gather a team in order to do such a mod.

**Peteriscoolz** · August 01, 2010, 06:36 AM

This is a good idea.Not many mods would actually feature all five Irish kingdoms.you could have scripted events such as High king elections.you could script norman armies near Dublin and wexford.I'll help you making this!

**PhilipO'Hayda** · August 01, 2010, 01:46 PM

thats funny I was thinking about making a mod like that, but I don't have a clue on making anything like that.

your going to have to make it yourslef with any help you can get.

I'nd love to help in anyway I can

**Peteriscoolz** · August 01, 2010, 02:18 PM

Chieftans clans or kingdoms? I mean lets tak connaucht for example they were a knigdom within the kingdom powerful chieftans within the chieftans powerfuful clans

**chris7ian** · August 01, 2010, 02:43 PM

@ Peter and Philip: Let me do some more research, if you guys have any links to medieval ireland that would help please post, and give a little more detail to my proposal. If you look at the Kingdom of Thomond, Brian Boru's Kingdom, they always get ignored and their lands are given to Munster. But if you look at the map in the spoiler above and go through the major time periods, the Kingdom of Munster is called Desmumu. I haven't researched this enough for lack of many good quality sources but I suspect the Four major Kingdoms didn't control all of Ireland. I sure some territories were still controlled by local Clans and Chieftains.

I stress this is only a proposal no set time periods or faction list has been developed. I think starting the mod at 950 with vikings having some settlements like shown here, http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlkik/ihm/ire900.htm, would be best time to start. The 5 Kingdoms would be the largest Kingdoms but the Kingdom of Thomond as well as other could control smaller territories. These would be less developed settlements in rural Ireland while The five major factions are more developed and prosperous.

Now go to the next map and the other Kingdoms added in would be the smaller less developed rural Kingdoms. Some are based off certain clans and others are not.

Larger Kingdoms: Larger territories, key ports and castles, more trade
Norther Ui Neill
Southern Ui Neill
Desmumu
Laigin
Connacht

Tweener Kingdom:
Thomond - Brian Boru event would make them a more prominent faction, and First High King elected

Lesser Kingdoms: Smaller territories, often no water access, buffers between larger kingdom, often controlled by a single clan
Ulaid
Airgialla
Breifne
Ui Fidgente
Deisi
Dal Cais
Osraige
Conaille Muiktemne - spelled wrong possibly couldnt make out the print
Dal Fiatach
Dal nAraide
Dal Riata
Cenel nEogain
Cenel Conaill
Viking

20 factions altogether. If this were to happen I would like to use all 199 regions, to support all 20 factions, with a map as big as possible.