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    Umbro's Avatar Laetus
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    Default Heroic/Suicide enemy units: How does work the enemy moral?

    I already have been some battles till I started my new campaign and I experienced that enemy moral is sometimes "unbreakable". It won't be a big problem if it is reasonable (princeps vs gallic heavy swordsmen or similar cases), but many times when I blitz enemy skirmishers(open area, no hill or mountain) with my equites units, those fight hard and not retreat until minutes, when I'm winning position.
    OR and it is funniest
    I win the battle big part of enemy retreated/routed, then I see on the "radar" one or two unit attack my rear lines . I check it and wonder it. One enemy man fight with my whole unit until one minutes It is interesting. Have a chance any moral changing or I need to accept this situation?

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    Default Re: Heroic/Suicide enemy units: How does work the enemy moral?

    If there is a General Morale is boosted for all the units in RTW. The morale and other defense factors are made so units wont Rout at first sight, this wouldnt allow tactics to be imployed if battles were over in 5 minutes.

    Each unit is different some have more Morale than others, but MORE importantly is the fact that the AI may have MORE experience Silver or Gold chevrons which will made them not rout as much. Over all Armies routing are very easy, kill the leader and they start to fall apart, if they dont have leader its even easier. Also beware of Fighting Barbarians in Woods or SNOW. They get Bonuses.

    Basically you will always get one or 2 units that will fight more depending on all kinds of factors that give bonuses or handicaps. You'll have to accept this and LEARN what the weakness and Strength of the Battles are. If you feel another mod has better battles feel free to play it, I find that SPQR has the best battles overall and effective AI.
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    Umbro's Avatar Laetus
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    Default Re: Heroic/Suicide enemy units: How does work the enemy moral?

    Quote Originally Posted by lt1956 View Post
    I find that SPQR has the best battles overall and effective AI.
    ... that's why I play this mod and never change.
    Apart from some small disturbing things (above mentioned) this mod has more realistic battles like others. The truth is that I reload some battles, cause the enemy AI was very inteligent compared to RTW vanilla or other mods and I have to use other strategies like routine. I spent some exciting hours in front of screen and I thing I learnt the lesson, so I start a new campaign and I will be an imperator...

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    Default Re: Heroic/Suicide enemy units: How does work the enemy moral?

    Quote Originally Posted by Umbro View Post
    ... that's why I play this mod and never change.
    Apart from some small disturbing things (above mentioned) this mod has more realistic battles like others. The truth is that I reload some battles, cause the enemy AI was very inteligent compared to RTW vanilla or other mods and I have to use other strategies like routine. I spent some exciting hours in front of screen and I thing I learnt the lesson, so I start a new campaign and I will be an imperator...
    Yup, thats the learning curve of SPQR. I actually succeeded in my first campaign played in 6.4 version. Still have it, controlling big part of the map. Might turn it on actually

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    Default Re: Heroic/Suicide enemy units: How does work the enemy moral?

    the equites thing is the same for me. but when i kill abt 30-40 they start to rout already. but try to get ur equites to charge from the back of the opponent. they will most likely rout, and when one unit rout the rest will rout

    but the spartans never rout.. have to kill every one of em.

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    Default Re: Heroic/Suicide enemy units: How does work the enemy moral?

    Stick in there, you will get better. Once you learn how things work it gets better. Better then is watch the History Channels Roman documentaries and then play SPQR.
    Lt_1956
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