Fellowship Campaign is Great...but Unbalanced

[RuleBritannia]

After playing the Fellowship Campaign more thoroughly, it's definately fun and challenging. I'm at the Misty Mountains where you have to fight the Balrog(s). Now, I can easily kill the goblins, but the Balrogs wipe out my entire Fellowship army without losing a single unit! Don't get me wrong, I know the Balrog is meant to be extremely powerful, but the fact you're expected to fight SIX of them at once is a bit unfair.

Any tips on beating the Balrogs or any word on perhaps reducing their numbers?

[Leuton Eomund]

Yeah I thought that too. I modded few time M2TW, and I think that it can be done to be just one Balrog.

[Bloodzen]

You lost the entire Felloship?!!?

I beat it without losing any heroes pretty quickly.

Just bring your units back as far as you can and pepper the trolls with your archer units and use Gimili to take out the orc unit.

Just make sure to keep Frodo at the back out of the way.

[Seleukos_I.]

No, it can't be done.
I did not really have any problems in killing them. I did shoot them from the distance and then send all my generals to melee. It took a while but they finally got down. Just watch out that your heroes don't get killed.

[Mornai]

Well, when i fought them, half of the Balrogs ran around in circles a little west of the battle after i charged them, so i guess it was a bit easier for me. I shot them while they approached, and when i noticed that they stopped walking and started running, i charged all of my generals except Frodo, and after a while charged him forward too(this might be a risky move though). The Orc unit and the Balrogs stayed clumped together for the most part so i had to take them both on at the same time, but again because of those 6 or so Balrogs who wandered around the battlefield i think i had it easy. Sorry if i couldn't be of much help, but i'm sure you'll win eventually. Good Luck!

[RuleBritannia]

No, it can't be done.
I did not really have any problems in killing them. I did shoot them from the distance and then send all my generals to melee. It took a while but they finally got down. Just watch out that your heroes don't get killed.

Well, I tried to keep retreating my heroes from melee so I could start peppering the Balrogs with arrows, but they didn't respond. The heroes ran in a short circle then instantly charged the Balrogs back. It'd be easier if the heroes had a bit more sense.


EDIT: Tried again, got slaughtered. It makes absolutely no sense that you're supposed to fight 6 of these things with some underpowered heroes (I found Gimli's Bodyguard to be the only useful unit. At least they could hold their own at times). I give up, I'm just going to set the battle difficulty to its easiest then retry it. It's a lame tactic, I know, but this is ridiculously hard to win.

[Thyrion007]

in fact there are 11 balrogs,
tip: before fighting against the balrogs get 3 units of hobbits from hobbiton, they really help

[Icey Fresh Werewolf]

in fact there are 11 balrogs,
tip: before fighting against the balrogs get 3 units of hobbits from hobbiton, they really help

Actually I believe there are 10 balrogs and one general. I also must add that the general put up quite a fight, he might have even been as good as the balrogs (although he couldn't send men flying of course)

[ProvostGuard]

I brushed the aside the goblins with no casualties, but I actually lost Boromir fighting the Balrogs in addition to 97% of my bodyguards (thank God they respawned).

I personally think relieving the Hornburg is the most unbalanced mission. I tried several different strategies but lost each time. The closest I got was destroying a little over 70% of the enemy force. On another occasion, the AI decided to send most of its army to fight my hapless allies, leaving behind several isolated units. I took the bulk of my force and tried to charge some undefended crossbowmen, but they somehow managed to kill over 10% of my army before breaking. I call shenanigans.

Otherwise, I think most of the missions I've played so far are well-balanced.

[Fuzzball]

in fact there are 11 balrogs,
tip: before fighting against the balrogs get 3 units of hobbits from hobbiton, they really help

I did the same thing before, but I managed to get 5 groups of hobbits, and we beat them without that much trouble.

[newt]

I did the same thing before, but I managed to get 5 groups of hobbits, and we beat them without that much trouble.

Now go back and try it without cheating

[Puerkl8r]

I did it on my first try no problem.

[Amon Amarth 930]

lol, campaign is unbalanced because you are a bad player

[son of romans]

lol, campaign is unbalanced because you are a bad player

Totaly agree.

[RuleBritannia]

Totaly agree.

Are you sure it's not because of unbalance?

Think of it this way, for this battle you get:

Roughly 83 men. The only useful ones I found were Gimli, Boromir, and a few other missile units. Frodo and the other "light melee" units were useless.

vs.

Roughly 131 men. 125 weak Goblins, 6 Balrogs who have 45 attack, 35 defense, 6 hitpoints, excellent morale.





If you call that fair, or even sensible, then :facepalm:.

And mercenaries aren't an option. I checked the whole area and never found one mercenary group to hire.

[son of romans]

lol, campaign is unbalanced because you are a bad player

Totaly agree.With Frlowship I have strongest army in Midle-Earth!!!!

[RuleBritannia]

lol, campaign is unbalanced because you are a bad player

Not you again.

[Bloodzen]

If the battle is so unbalanced and difficult than why are the majority of players here able to win it so easily...

[RuleBritannia]

If the battle is so unbalanced and difficult than why are the majority of players here able to win it so easily...

No clue. They're either not playing on Hard/Very Hard, or are cheating, methinks. There seems to be no real way to beat this level fairly.

[newt]

VH/VH here, I beat it the first time, and lost no heroes. The mod creators beat it as well. If it was not winnable, they wouldn't have released it.