Poor Hungary

[aceking90]

I was so surprised by the favorit faction poll and how low Hungary scored. This got me thinking, why don't people like Hungary? I mean Poland did better and it has a much worse army. Hungary is in a great position to expand with out upsetting the Pope, it is the only cathlic faction to use horse archers on a large scale which is huge advantage. I know its infantry isn't that good in the begging but the Coat axemen and Battle Field Assasins help to make that up. I really can't think of anything bad about Hungary, so pleas tell me why people don't like Hungary?

[beckyolt]

Because hungary its hungary.

And because of mongols i guess =X

[aceking90]

Just because you have to deal with the Mongols doesn't expland why people would favor Poland over Hungray. Poland dosn't even have real horse archers they just through sharp sticks from horse back and their infantry is crap. They also have a harder time defending against the Mongols since Hungary is surronded by mountns and the sea on all sides while Poland eastern flank is wide open.

[Wisekraut]

Well, somebody has to get a low score.
If it wasn't Hungary, some Dane, German or Italian would complain here.

But I have plans to play Hungary any time soon.

[beckyolt]

Um. It's just a question of opinion.

Hungary is the faction i hate at most. Polish horse archers are much better. ( Into my opinion. ) And also, POLAND HAS NO REAL HORSE ARCHERS? Tell that to Polish Nobles.

[aceking90]

Um. It's just a question of opinion.

Hungary is the faction i hate at most. Polish horse archers are much better. ( Into my opinion. )

The Poles have only one unit of horse archers the rest use javalins and cross bows. But that's not the point, I want to know why you hate Hungary, not why you like other factions. What is it about Hungary that you don't like? I don't thing that you are wrong because it's just a matter of opinion, I'm just intertrested why you don't like Hungary.

[beckyolt]

All the factions have something that attracts me. For example. Sicily? Unique game-play, very funny. England? Strong position, longbowmen, in my opinion best faction. Spain? Good navy, excelent place to go to the new world, good technology, very defensable. Russia? Best calvary rooster.

Hungary has nothing that attracts me. Thats why i don't like it. Infantry? English infantry way better. Calvary. Russia or Spain or France or Poland. Archers? Again i prefer England. Projectile calvary? I prefer Poland or Egypt. Defensable position? I prefer England or Spain.

And "The poles have only unit of horse archers." Actually, there isn't any "horse archer" classification in the game, but "projectile calvary."( At least into mine M2TW... that came into spanish, rofl)

And javelins are projectiles, aren't them? Who the hell cares about the weapon a projectile calvary is using? LOL

[aceking90]

All the factions have something that attracts me. For example. Sicily? Unique game-play, very funny. England? Strong position, longbowmen, in my opinion best faction. Spain? Good navy, excelent place to go to the new world, good technology, very defensable. Russia? Best calvary rooster.

Hungary has nothing that attracts me. Thats why i don't like it. Infantry? English infantry way better. Calvary. Russia or Spain or France or Poland. Archers? Again i prefer England. Projectile calvary? I prefer Poland or Egypt.

And "The poles have only unit of horse archers." Actually, there isn't any "horse archer" classification in the game, but "projectile calvary."( At least into mine M2TW... that came into spanish, rofl)

And javelins are projectiles, aren't them? Who the hell cares about the weapon a projectile calvary is using? LOL

Here is why I like Hungary. They start in one of the best positions on the map, lots of rebel settlements to invade, great natural defenses making them hard to attack, and once you have a good foot hold you can easly invade the Byzantine Empire and the Pope won't get mad at you for doing so. And you are the closest cathlic faction to the holy lands meaning you are in the best positiong during a crusade.

Their armies are good mix of cheap units and more powerfull ones. The only weakness they have is that they have weak infantry in the begining and few spearmen. But I can make do by using their horse archers.

And about Poland. I said horse archers because I meant horse riders who use bows, if I meant projectile calvary I would have said projectile calvary. Poland only has one unit of horse archers, while Hungary has at least two. The reason I mentioned horse archers is because they are the best projectile calvary, they have greater range than the javaline and are faster that the crossbow.

I oprtiat your opion, and if I came off as rude about the horse archer thing, I didn't mean to I was just making it clear what I meant.

[Theseus1234]

Honestly? The salmon pink and green color scheme. It's just...eugh.

Also I tend to not play factions that have a lot of horse archers. Poland is the one exception and even that was a stretch for me. I can't really micromanage that well so they end up getting caught by infantry or cavalry. I also prefer skirmisher cavalry over horse archers because skirmisher cavalry deals more damage and generally are better armored, and can double as light or medium cavalry depending on upgrades.

[thespaniard]

I can't really micromanage that well so they end up getting caught by infantry or cavalry. I also prefer skirmisher cavalry over horse archers because skirmisher cavalry deals more damage and generally are better armored, and can double as light or medium cavalry depending on upgrades.[/QUOTE]
yeah for some reason schrimish mode only works on troops i dont want to use it on my jinetes always end up charging into the middle of the enemey line...
and hungary is not bad i dont play them much i would rather play as byzentines just because of varangian guard and awsome cav but i like their battlefield assasains i use them in online all the time they almost always turn the battle to my side and once they get knights they get a good melee cav and a good line infantry mix that with awsome HA and i can own some really good factions

[tudor93]

Hehe, simply because .... I'm romanian, and you hungarians want Transilvania

[zcylen]

Honestly? The salmon pink and green color scheme. It's just...eugh.

that was enough reason for me to dislike hungary
that color makes me sick

[Falcone]

that was enough reason for me to dislike hungary
that color makes me sick

I'm Hungarian, but the original colors of the army... But check the "Magyar Mod". It's just a "mini-mod", but in this mod, the kingdom is more realistic (and better skinned) and stronger.

[zcylen]

I'm Hungarian, but the original colors of the army... But check the "Magyar Mod". It's just a "mini-mod", but in this mod, the kingdom is more realistic (and better skinned) and stronger.

then I have to see that mod

[Surgeon]

Because of their awful uniforms. Seriously, what was CA thinking with those colors?

[Ishan]

Because of their awful uniforms. Seriously, what was CA thinking with those colors?

How the hell i missed that sentence a real good one surgeon.
+rep

[Kripox]

How the hell i missed that sentence a real good one surgeon.
+rep

+rep for that? What? Players have bashed CA since time immemorial for that color scheme I don't know what they put in their coffee, but it's obviously some quite hardcore stuff.

As for why Hungary isn't liked, the color scheme does have an impact. But I think it comes more down to uniqueness.

Every faction is unique, but some are more similar than others. Hungary loses out because of similarities. It is different from Poland, Russia and the Byzantines, but those factions added together have all the things Hungary has, and offer more entertaining campaigns.

As for other not-all-too-unique factions, they still have differences and offer good campaigns. Take Portugal and Spain, they're damn similar, and have pretty similar campaigns, but they're different enough right off the bat to warrant both some love. Hungary doesn't have a fun enough campaign, and when it loses uniqueness and is given that horrendous color scheme, it falls from grace.

[aceking90]

+rep for that? What? Players have bashed CA since time immemorial for that color scheme I don't know what they put in their coffee, but it's obviously some quite hardcore stuff.

As for why Hungary isn't liked, the color scheme does have an impact. But I think it comes more down to uniqueness.

Every faction is unique, but some are more similar than others. Hungary loses out because of similarities. It is different from Poland, Russia and the Byzantines, but those factions added together have all the things Hungary has, and offer more entertaining campaigns.

As for other not-all-too-unique factions, they still have differences and offer good campaigns. Take Portugal and Spain, they're damn similar, and have pretty similar campaigns, but they're different enough right off the bat to warrant both some love. Hungary doesn't have a fun enough campaign, and when it loses uniqueness and is given that horrendous color scheme, it falls from grace.

The reason I like Hungary is because I think it's very unique. It's army maybe small but to me it always seemed to be fairly well balance. And it gets one of the best horse archer units in the game very early. Now I will say that I hate the Transavin peasnts. But thats because they are one of the coolest looking units in the game, they got those giant hailiburs which make them look so Gothic, and they are given a 5 attack and a 1 defense, what is with that?! And it takes so long to get them because they can only be requited in cities and thats only when you build large inn. I was so dispaponted by that. Yet other than that I can't think of anything wrong with them.

[Theseus1234]

The reason I like Hungary is because I think it's very unique. It's army maybe small but to me it always seemed to be fairly well balance. And it gets one of the best horse archer units in the game very early. Now I will say that I hate the Transavin peasnts. But thats because they are one of the coolest looking units in the game, they got those giant hailiburs which make them look so Gothic, and they are given a 5 attack and a 1 defense, what is with that?! And it takes so long to get them because they can only be requited in cities and thats only when you build large inn. I was so dispaponted by that. Yet other than that I can't think of anything wrong with them.

You know, maybe you're right. I'm not really a horse archer guy (Jinetes, Strezlcy, and Polish Nobles are the most I've dabbled in with horse archers), but I'm going to try a few Hungarian custom battles and start a new Hungary campaign in SS (Medieval 2.exe doesn't work for me for some reason, but the kingdoms.exe is fine...weird).

[aceking90]

See I kind of like their color scheme I don't know why, it just works for them. Also Hungary noble work great as both light and medium calvary. But hey it's your opion I'm just couris.