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    Default The Celtic Answer - myCeltmodv2 -

    This mod for rtw1.3 will include:

    -if i write "celtic", it means for gaul and britons-

    Replacements:
    celtic swordmans, replaced by custom model with longshield
    celtic elite swordmans, replaced by custom model with longshield
    briton woad warrior, replaced by custom model with longshield
    gaul peltst, replaced by custom model with longshield

    Additional units:
    Celtic Chiefguard, the hastati mod with great bodyshields updated with new helmet.
    Helmet with neck and cheek protection is one single model now!
    Celtic Clanwarrior, the hastati mod with longshield but new version.

    Special units:
    the gaul will get my new naked warrior!
    The britons will get my celtic sword maiden!

    Brand new units:
    "Celtic Spears" light armored warrior with heavy thrusting spear.
    "Celtic heavy Spears" same type of warrior with celtic mail armor.

    Celtic Spears:
    The basic model was barb_infantry_high.cas (the default slave infantry with shield)
    From my point of view it has some useful features;
    Longsleeved shirt with undivided surface and long neckhair, well modelled long throuser with excellent shape at the leg ends and the texture has enough unused space to work on.

    The "celtic spears" got a new helmet, broadheaded trusting spear and the fully modelled longshield.

    The "celtic heavy spears" got the same as above and the shoulder pads of my hastati celts. The option to make the shoulders invisible and change bodyarmor into shirt texture is available.

    The "celtic swords" are outfitted like the heavy spears but equipped with a sword.
    The option to make the shoulders invisible and change bodyarmor into shirt texture is available.
    I will use the "celtic swords" as replacement of the default elite swordman(warguard)

    I had in mind to get more replacements of vanilla units then adding new units to complete the line-up of celtic troop types without disturbing the game with more custom units.And to use the new units as new basic celts like all roman factions use they legionaries.
    Both celtic factions will have the same number of choosable units!
    I think they should be recruitable after the marian reform for best effect.


    Tactical Use:
    Celtic Spears should create the center front line of the army in battle formation.
    They will have good morale, they thrusting spears do pretty much pain but they are lightly armored. A hard wall for every roman sandal-warband ;O), which holds not for long but long enough. (light_spear, spear_bonus_4, 60 men 3 rows, mental 10)
    Celtic Swords will create the second row, eager to grant much more pain!
    Celtic Clanwarrior will stay in the third row throwing they javelins over the first two lines into the enemy ranks to get they hands free for nourishing celtic fields with fresh roman litter.
    If your celtic army has also Heavy Spears, place them on the flanks with some naked warriors behind, "Hey roman cavallry, let`s have a party!" ;O)
    Let one unit of Chiefguards protect your general, usually not important but you never know......
    ......how much lusted troops of godzillianic, feressian mercenaries the roman senate has send this time. *giggle*

    "Abu!"


    Don`t take my "juicy" descriptions too serious, it`s a game ;O)



    for sure you will get the latest skins for all celtic units with the package too :O)
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    ingame "Celtic Spears"

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    armored version "Celtic heavy Spears"


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    Oh darnit i thought this ment celtic units for BI. Drat, still look very nice tho. :Original:
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    Webbird, these look great! I'd love to try porting it into BI

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    Quote Originally Posted by counterveil
    Webbird, these look great! I'd love to try porting it into BI
    Hmm...why didint i think of that? Anything to get rid of those retarted Hounds of Cullan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the celt
    Hmm...why didint i think of that? Anything to get rid of those retarted Hounds of Cullan.
    Yes. Please. And while you're at it let's get rid of the Lombard Berserkers too

    Your celts are amazing - with some modification they could be used for Germanic warriors as well to get rid of the current Alemanni, Lombardi, Burgundii, and Goth units. The packaged ones are ok, but they just look nothing like the amazing research that was done by Osprey Books (check out their book "Germanic Warrior: AD 236-568"). Your celts look much more Germanic than the standard BI skins.

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    They look pretty celtic to me. But maybe thats cuse the Guals and germanics lived next door to eachother and thus shared many aspects of there different cultures, military included. But yes i agree Webird should tackle BI after he release's this mod.
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    The small picture within the big one show the old vanilla warguard unit (with added longshield)
    This was the only heavy vanilla infantry for the celtic factions.

    The big picture show my replacement, the new warguard with final texture only the gloss file has to be made.
    Btw. i added the helmet of the unused vanilla celt-general to the celtic lesser general model, looks much better now.



    i will try to use them with BI, the default celts of BI are not worth talking about, maybe they get more interresting if we change completly the unit setup and models. The gallowglass is a nice model, no question, but he was not earlier then 1100 AC

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    @ the celt:
    Yes, his skins definitely look Celtic - and much more so than any of the standard RTW/BI skins. What I meant was that his Celt skins actually look better for Germans than the actual German skins in vanilla BI . Some modification to make them look more "Germanic" would be necessary of course; a bit more stripes here an d there minus the checkers, and changing the shape of the spangenhelm in some cases. Also possibly changing the footwear into the wraps that many of the Germanics favored would differentiate nicely.

    @ webbird:
    Yeah, I would love to see modifications to the BI celts - I may try my hand at it sometime but am currently working on Saxons. The gallowglass are definitely out of time frame; perhaps the name and stats could be kept but the model and skin definitely need modification to make it more time-appropriate. And the Hounds of Cullen must go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by counterveil
    @ webbird:
    Yeah, I would love to see modifications to the BI celts - I may try my hand at it sometime but am currently working on Saxons. The gallowglass are definitely out of time frame; perhaps the name and stats could be kept but the model and skin definitely need modification to make it more time-appropriate. And the Hounds of Cullen must go.
    I completely agree the gallowglass i actuelly dont mind but there so out of the time frame they can go to ChivTW. And when Webbird release's this mod i might try to give some of the briton units to the celt in BI and rename them "Picts"(cheap i know but as WB said the current units for them arent worth mentioning)

    PS:I cant wait to see those Saxons of yours Counterveil. Jugeing by your avatar you seem to know what your doing! Just make sure they get those one-hand axes the size of tree trunks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the celt
    PS:I cant wait to see those Saxons of yours Counterveil. Jugeing by your avatar you seem to know what your doing! Just make sure they get those one-hand axes the size of tree trunks.
    I've got every Osprey book known to man on the topic of Saxons, plus a few other books. Gonna take me a while; I want them to look as good as these and as good as Attilla's Late Romans...just not sure I have the skill

    Can't wait for these celts to be available Webbird, I'm keeping my eye on this topic!

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    VERY nice. The Chainmail is particuarly of note.

    I too would like to see some BI celts. That's why IR is hopefully going to redo them early on (ok a bit of an odd one to be overhauling in V1:- But you'll soon see why )
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    where can you download or cant you yet?

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    are you going to put gloss on them? when do you think you will release them?

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    Good, then it will be "Hair" ! :O) btw. i prefer hair too!

    On the picture below you see my planed lineup of the celts, with replaced, vanilla and new units included.
    This time i made also nice info pics which you can see now. (the one with stony base )
    Don`t laugh, i never made it myself before, what have i to do, to let the game accept a replacement of my info pics for default vanilla units ????
    Some help would be great!!!

    btw. the additional naked warrior and the swordmaid are optional, you can have them included if you like.


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    Ilias,
    usually i test them all under battle conditions until i am sure they trigger no ctd or have graphical errors.
    Next, i use them for some time until i have no further "last minute ideas" any more.
    And if i am pleased by the look of the whole bunch of files then i will publish them but not earlier.

    I will make gloss files where i think it`s better to use it, not allways will a glossed piece of armor look better!

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    Lokking great webbird!
    One way of doing it is to extract all the UI stuff, replace/add what you want, and delete or rename the ui_1.pak file. The game will look for the UI pics in the extracted folders.

    Download V. 1.0 here
    Discussion and updates here

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    ok thanksxxxxxx

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    Sweet, webbird. :original:
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