Game crashes during (or after?) Eleutheroi turn

**krait23** · July 22, 2010, 01:30 PM

This crash has me at a loss. I am not completing any buildings, I tried ending all unit production, no dice. I also have a hard time finding any rebellions using toggle_fow as suggested (maybe I am just to dumb to see them?), so I really dunno what else to do other than asking someone in the know to look at my savegame.
Playing EB 1.2 on RTW 1.5 install.

Thank you in advance!

P.S.: I did try to tinker with files, iirc I enabled highways for other factions than Rome (which seemed to have worked, they show fine on the map even though the picture and text are incorrect) and tried to enable recruitment of siege engines for Pahlava (copied the lines from the selecuid ones into the pahlava buldings and changed the faction name, don't think this worked though but I read somewhere you have to start a new game for such changes to take effect?). Maybe it is one of these? Though I have played quite a few turns since...

Is there no log file or somesuch that hints at what causes the hiccup?

**XSamatan** · July 23, 2010, 02:31 AM

Reading your post, it seems you have been trying all hints mentioned in the Frequently encountered issues about CTD's in the AI-turn?
I'll check your game in weekend, but since you altered some files, it might not load on my build, we'll see.

The RTW engine offers not the very cool feature of MTW2 to create a very good report.

XSamatan

**krait23** · July 23, 2010, 02:43 PM

I'd be really grateful if you would give it a try, I would really rather finish my EB campaign instead of moving on to Medieval II/BC prematurely...

**Alexandros I.** · July 24, 2010, 06:27 AM

I have nearly the same problem. Attached you get the savegame if you need it.

I play as Romans and during or after the eleutheroi turn I get this error message:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**XSamatan** · July 24, 2010, 07:34 AM

@ krait23
I think it should be fixed now, but keep this file as a backup, so you can easily revert back: http://ul.to/rej6rr

The reason it crashed was a error inside the EBBS.

XSamatan

**krait23** · July 24, 2010, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by XSamatan

@ krait23
I think it should be fixed now, but keep this file as a backup, so you can easily revert back: http://ul.to/rej6rr

The reason it crashed was a error inside the EBBS.

XSamatan

First of all, thank you for your effort, really appreciated!

The game indeed continues to run now. Regrettably, the traits of all my familiy mambers seem to have gotten messed up. They all got various traits they didn't have before, even mutually exclusive ones like 'takes after his father' and 'not like his father'. That wouldn't be that bad though.
But the first turn into the game, they all were announced as merc generals for whom a path has to be chosen now, and of course two turns later, all the governors who had become client rulers got imposter traits which pretty much ended my economy then and there.

Maybe this is due to differences between our installs? I had a crash related to traits before and tried to fix that by some file, which crashed my game on loading though so I think I reverted that and fixed it prolly by not running the EB script for that turn...

What does 'error in the EBBS' mean anyway? Anything I can do about that myself? I am not exactly a RTW modder, but I have modded other games a bit, including ETW, so I am not a total tool when it comes to messing around with game files....

**XSamatan** · July 24, 2010, 08:00 AM

@ Alexandros I.

I tried all known and most unknown possible solutions but it crashes with the same message (even with BI) at my build, you should try if you can switch back to older saves and look if the error comes again. If other games also crash, a re-installation would the best solution.

XSamatan

**Alexandros I.** · July 24, 2010, 09:34 AM

I've already tried it with older saves but it doesn't help. Thank you very much for your effort!

**XSamatan** · July 24, 2010, 07:23 PM

This could be because we have different versions, but I suggest you try to remember if you installed EB correctly.

I did not changed EBBS (EB background script found in EB\Data\scripts\show_me) but I instead captured the two remaining rebel towns in central Europe with script-generated defenders using a captain-lead army I teleported and the auto_win cheat. To prevent a possible rebellion-CTD I recruited in each town a diplomat and gifted the cities via Force Diplomacy to the Arverni and Sweboz. This fixed the error, which is probably caused due to a failed spawn. The tech-support is currently working on a fix for this problem, but don't ask me when it is finished. I think you should be able to reproduce my actions and save your campaign yourself.
If you have detailed questions about my steps, feel free to ask (and don't wait to long as I may have forgotten them then).

XSamatan

**krait23** · July 25, 2010, 04:04 PM

I tried to retrace your steps. Most of it is no problem.
Just the force diplomacy part. Apparently the command doesn't work in the console anymore, and I need the force diplo minimod. Regrettably the only download link I find for it is some filefront crap that gives me a corrupt file.
Anyone know another way to get it? And I do not want to install the whole minimod, too afraid that that would totally screw up my campaign (And maybe you have the minimod installed and that causes the traits mess?)

**XSamatan** · July 26, 2010, 01:19 PM

That mod is 100% save-game compatible! Do not worry to ruin your game, you won't. If you want to be on the absolute safe side, keep a backup of your save outside the RTW folder.

XSamatan

**krait23** · July 27, 2010, 05:09 PM

Well since I seem to require Force Diplomacy to properly repair that save, can anyone provide me a link to either the force diplomacy minimod or the minimod pack? The only links I can seem to find for either are filefront ones that do not work for me...