Kingdom of Jerusalem

[Bund weicher Birnen]

I don't know where I can post my question so I post it here...
I want to play the Kingdom of Jerusalem in the early era in SS 6.2.

I've tried on my own and edited the descr_strat.txt and gave the faction jerusalem as capital, characters with traits(most of this traits are copied from the late campaign) and agents/diplomats because I have no idea how to create a horde. I know its not historical but the best way with my very low modding skills.
The characters are named and there are historical correct. The family tree constists of a father(Gottfried which is married with Marie), his son Balduin and his other son Tankred.
So far so good,it should work, but:

When I start the campaign with Jerusalem it jump back to the main menu and I don't know why. It would be nice when anybody can help me?

There's nothing mentioned that Jerusalem spawns with a horde in the early era in the descr_sm_factions.txt or the campaign script. So I'm wondering why it doesn't work...

The system.log says that:
01:44:18.702 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Stainless_Steel_6/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 5009, column 1
Cannot create a general/admiral character without an army/navy.

I haven't got any idea why because every general has an army with his bodyguard and units...
If anybody help me so that it works, I will publish it for the 6.2 players if they would like to play this faction in the early era...

Here's my descr_strat:

[Seether]

One thing I noticed is that you have this listed:

character	Gottfried, named character, male, leader, age 50, x 330, y 74 ;Jerusalem
traits FactionLeader 1 , MilitaryInclination 1 , Military_Edu 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , GoodCommander 3 , Intelligent 2 , 
TourneyKnight 3 , StrategyChivalry 4 , GoodDiplomacy 2 , CrusaderHistory 2, ReligiousActivity 2
army
unit		NE Bodyguard				exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pilgrims			exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pilgrims			exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pilgrims			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pisan and Geonese sailors			exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pisan and Geonese sailors			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Templar Sergeant			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Templar Sergeant			exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Templar Crossbowmen			exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Templar Crossbowmen			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Dismounted Knights Of Jerusalem			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Knights of Jerusalem		exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

You have Gottfried's traits on 2 lines of code when they have to be on only 1 line, like this:

character	Gottfried, named character, male, leader, age 50, x 330, y 74 ;Jerusalem
traits FactionLeader 1 , MilitaryInclination 1 , Military_Edu 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , GoodCommander 3 , Intelligent 2 , TourneyKnight 3 , StrategyChivalry 4 , GoodDiplomacy 2 , CrusaderHistory 2, ReligiousActivity 2
army
unit		NE Bodyguard				exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pilgrims			exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pilgrims			exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pilgrims			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pisan and Geonese sailors			exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Pisan and Geonese sailors			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Templar Sergeant			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Templar Sergeant			exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Templar Crossbowmen			exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Templar Crossbowmen			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Dismounted Knights Of Jerusalem			exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Knights of Jerusalem		exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

See if that helps, and also ensure that the names you have are listed under Jerusalem in names.txt and have entries in descr_names.

[Bund weicher Birnen]

The names are correct listed under Jerusalem in names.txt and descr_names. This isn't the problem.
If I do what you said I get a CTD:

19:02:40.535 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
19:02:40.536 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Feb 25 2008 version development ===
19:02:40.540 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
19:02:40.541 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack
19:02:40.542 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack
19:02:40.543 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack
19:02:40.544 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack
19:02:40.544 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack
19:03:10.218 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

[Seether]

My suggestion fixed the initial error with descr_strat, but the log doesn't show anything to work with for you new CTD. It's not the descr_strat.txt, but could now be any number of things. Can you try to start it again and run a trace log?

The names stuff I brought up was just to pre-empt a CTD or bugs by the names not being in those files.

[Bund weicher Birnen]

I've started it again and got the same CTD...
Then I have reduced the traits to a minimum so that there are only traits in one line and tried it again
--> same CTD

By the way what is a trace log? I only know the system.log...

[Seether]

Having too many traits won't cause a CTD; the excess traits just won't be displayed or used by the character.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=143177
Explains how to use a trace log in the system.log.txt, and also some basic CTD fixes.

I would highly suggest checking out the different tutorials for scripting in the Mod Workshop. I self taught myself to do quite a bit by using them.

[Bund weicher Birnen]

Since a few days I'm checking out different stuff for text editing...
But what the trace log gives me is something that is too much for me...
I don't know why it asks for things which aren't included in the original installation...
See below:

[Alpha Zeke]

I don't know much about modding, and maybe I missed it, but the game has a faction limit. Unless you removed a faction, you can't add any more.

[Caesar Clivus]

I don't know much about modding, and maybe I missed it, but the game has a faction limit. Unless you removed a faction, you can't add any more.

KoJ is already in the game so he's not adding one.

If when you go to start a campaign and it throws you back to the menu, the problem is going to be in descr_strat. When that happens to me, it usually means the relative line is messed up. Looking at your relative line for KoJ, you've used spaces to separate the names. They have to be separated by TAB spaces or you will get that CTD.

[Bund weicher Birnen]

It doesn't make a difference because I get with your solution the same CTD...

[Caesar Clivus]

Are you sure you're using actual tab spaces? Because some text editors put only spaces even if you hit the tab key. Post your latest descr_strat and I'll take a look at it.

[Bund weicher Birnen]

I've recognized that the Order of the knights templar has also a character who is called "Gottfried".. is this maybe the problem?

And here is my latest descr_strat.txt with your Tab solution:

[Caesar Clivus]

I've recognized that the Order of the knights templar has also a character who is called "Gottfried".. is this maybe the problem?

So long as the name is in both factions' name lists you can have identically named characters so that wont be the problem.

Ok you need to use TAB spaces for the entire relative line, not just between each name. That means between the word relative and the first name, and between the comma after the last name and the end. For example:

relativeTABGottfried,TABMarie,TABBalduin,TABTankred,TABend

Can I suggest to take a look at the Mod Workshop. There are several tutorials there on editing family trees. They can be very tricky to set up correctly. God knows how often they have caused me headaches