Question about using ships in mapmaking

[Fable]

Hi All

With the thought of Umbar as a pssible costum map, I have a question about a map asset: Ships
In the teutonic campaign i Kingdoms Vanilla, there is a historical battle which features a viking invasion on a beach - and it has ships !

here is a link(0.56):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0fpv1C17ws

These ships are included in a historical battle in The Britannia Campaign, and I would like to point out that this ressource exist.
But how can they be made/ported into a costum map ex of a great harbour like umbar?

EDIT: had a talk with Inarus about making this map, and he pointed the problem out:

"Interesting, well if you tell me precisely how to extract the pack file so that I can get the model file then I will attempt to place it in TATW and then I will see if I can make the map. Thing is that everyone who downloads the map will need the boat file, looks a bit impossible. I can hardly spread around official files.

But you will need to give me PRECISE details about how to extract the submod files because I have tried plenty of command lines on that extracter.

Meanwhile I will look through some beautiful maps of Beleriand I found on the internet. I need a new location"

Could anyone help solve this issue?

Thanks in advance

[Lord Uxbridge]

hmmm no idea

i've seen them in a ETW campaign battle as well

[pete0714]

What you are linking to is a youtube video of an intro movie to the teutonic campaign, not a historic battle. In fact I thought that the kingdoms campaigns didn't have historic battles, but more setups for multiplayer matches. The intro movies do not always reflect things that are possible in the game itself, but are meant for atmosphere.

[Venia]

What you are linking to is a youtube video of an intro movie to the teutonic campaign, not a historic battle. In fact I thought that the kingdoms campaigns didn't have historic battles, but more setups for multiplayer matches. The intro movies do not always reflect things that are possible in the game itself, but are meant for atmosphere.

it is possible but not without changing hardcoded things

[pete0714]

Isn' t the movie simply a video file and not an actual game file? Maybe you could cut and past a 2d image from the video but the video file doesn't contain a 3d model of the ship for the game itself. Question is whether there is an actual 3d model for the background in any of the custom battle or historical battle maps. Those you can work with. But not the intro video, at least not with the outcome desired.

[pete0714]

I know that Rome used to have background models for its maps of ships and harbors. If you had a certain # of ships in the port or blockading on the campaign, those same number of ships would show up on the battle map. Cool thing I thought, but I have not noticed that consistency in MTW2. Maybe just missing something.

[Lord Uxbridge]

they're not in the tectonic historical battles (though i'm sure i've seen them before somewhere else)

I guess they would have to be a building model shaped like a ship???

EDIT: found them there in a britannia historical battle

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

May be there is a way you can get the ship model from the kingdom: britannia folder somewhere

I can't unpack the kingdoms files to find it can anyone help with this???

[Fable]

they're not in the tectonic historical battles (though i'm sure i've seen them before somewhere else)

I guess they would have to be a building model shaped like a ship???

EDIT: found them there in a britannia historical battle

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

May be there is a way you can get the ship model from the kingdom: britannia folder somewhere

I can't unpack the kingdoms files to find it can anyone help with this???

Those are what I talked about
Great find!

Hmmm any idea how to use them on a costum map???

[Fable]

Okay another questoin:
How do you extract those files?

A step by step guide would be best

[Inarus]

Okay another questoin:
How do you extract those files?

A step by step guide would be best

Ahh, you're like a parrot, echoing everything I say (That's not an insult so don't take it the wrong way)

I was unaware of your source of info being a thread here

Come on guys, need this info asap. It's for your own good!

[Lord Uxbridge]

Ok i'm trying to make the map with the ships a custom battle in TATW, here is how far i've got:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

All I have done so far is get the map to show on the 'choose battle' screen it does not yet allow me to play battles on it.

Hopefully I soon will be able to get it working, can anyone help with this???

[Inarus]

HOW DID YOU GET BOATS????!!!

EDIT: Oh I get it. Ignore that.

I think the problem would be that there are unknown features in that file (THE BOATS).

[Lord Uxbridge]

Managed to get the boat in battle editor on vanilla M2TW uploading pic

[Inarus]

Managed to get the boat in battle editor on vanilla M2TW uploading pic

We don't want a picture, we want to know how to get the bloody boats!

All I need is EXACT details on how to use the extracter.

[Lord Uxbridge]

I'm trying to find that out now

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

First you have to unpack your britannia campaign folder if you have not yet done so

Then open:

C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\british_isles\data\settlements\water

and copy all the files there

Next open:

C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\data\settlements\water

and paste the files here

[-Cygnus-]

Thanks for this too i really want those danish boats in my battle editor x)
BTW, how do i make to the spanish galleys of the americas campaign appear with their own textures,danish boats are fine, but spanish galleys appear tottaly black.