Biggest flaw in the mod

[Millz]

Just before anyone starts raging at me, I really like the mod. Details are amazing, its balanced and battles are fun to play. My biggest problem how ever is this



I get this pretty much in every campaign, those people army's just tend to steam roll over any faction. I dunno what to do, free people are the biggest empire every game and there units are to matched. Its understandable you dont want them to be to weak but this? They got ELITE units. Compare it to a strike were the strikes got a tank or a civil war with atomic bombs. They should rely heavily on morale not on elite units with high attack and defense which is strange IMO. Anyway does anybody else has this problem or is it just me (most likely).

[The Man With No Name]

I think it's just you. The free people are, for a start, two seperate factions. They are quite a threat at the beggining of the campaign, but once the 'real' factions start conquering land they quickly dissapear. They are really just there to hold all the factions in check at the beggining of the campaign, slowing some down more than others.

If they seem to strong, I would suggest building up a full stack each time you take on a free people's province. As long as you have good public order after that, you won't have to worry about them once you've conquered all those in your immeadiate area.

[GenWolfe]

There might be a lot of them but I find them fairly easy to beat. Heck I am new to RS and found the Free Peoples to be easy to beat. I had 3 full stack free peoples armies attack my full stack of Romans one after another and beat them all.

[xXEsotericXx]

There might be a lot of them but I find them fairly easy to beat. Heck I am new to RS and found the Free Peoples to be easy to beat. I had 3 full stack free peoples armies attack my full stack of Romans one after another and beat them all.

Thats personal....

I think of all factions Macedonia need'd some free people around them, to slow them down, cuz all factions have problems to grow fast , except Macedonia, mayeb a dev personal taste dunno , like carthage they where never that great , only what hannibal did was brilliant, i hate personal stuff in mods or in any game, balance out, or no DL..
But free people dont steam roll any faction they just slow down, factions

[Millz]

I would make up a big stake and work on my economy if I could, but the problem is with me that the free people are agressive... They start invading regions and laying siege to city's.

[Mile007]

You can (like I did) modify the descr_strat.txt. Scroll down to free people(in descr strat they are under britons) and rebels and remove the armies you want.

[Sindaram]

You can (like I did) modify the descr_strat.txt. Scroll down to free people(in descr strat they are under britons) and rebels and remove the armies you want.

Or you could just go to the submods forum and download no rebels/free people submod and be done with them forever :p

[Eshmunamesh]

They start invading regions and laying siege to city's.

Who are you playing as??

I have never had this problem with any faction I've played steadily with...

[Millz]

Playing as germania, I'm german blood myself so i though it was well suited . But with luck I can take 1 settlement but they just start sieging all my cities except for mariu which is on a island where they seemingly dont go to.

EDIT:
Germans also start with finiancial loss which is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO annoying.

[Millz]

I want to play with Rebels, just not as OP right now. Cant handle them, cant even get in mid game due to aggressive ai controlling them.

[Sindaram]

ah, well, can't say i really ever had that problem, the only reason i ever created the no rebel submod was cause as far as i was concerned those silly little rebels were all that stood in my way of having a good old all out brawl going, them being too tough... not so much tho. Weakening them as Mile said might be your only real option then.

[Invigilator]

I want to play with Rebels, just not as OP right now. Cant handle them, cant even get in mid game due to aggressive ai controlling them.

One of the best things about RTW is how easy it is to modify and customize. If you think the rebel units are overpowered, just to go the export_descr_unit.txt and change the rebel unit statistics.

For example, in my own version of RS 1.5 I changed defence values to reflect the armor and shield of the unit, which in many cases lowered barbarian defence values for the units that had no armor. I also made them less expensive to recruit to compensate. Now barbarian armies are realistically sized but the unarmored warriors don't have unrealistically high defence values and don't take forever for better units to hack through.

It's a good medium between not changing anything and removing rebels altogether.

The armies that spawn after a Free Peoples' city rebels is always a bit of an eye-opener; wall-to-wall triple gold chevron units

That has always been the most retarded thing about RTW: some tiny little town that I had exterminated previously that only had like 30 people in it anymore revolts, and suddenly they have 5000 super elite soldiers. Where did they come from?

[Velico]

That has always been the most retarded thing about RTW: some tiny little town that I had exterminated previously that only had like 30 people in it anymore revolts, and suddenly they have 5000 super elite soldiers. Where did they come from?

They came down from the hills Highlander style

[5th Lieutenant]

It's possibly to give the necessary morale boost to represent die-hard rebels with nothing to lose.

That was my take on it and hence my response: starve the buggers out and enslave the malnourished survivors

[xXEsotericXx]

That was my take on it and hence my response: starve the buggers out and enslave the malnourished survivors

lol or just give them generals with 6 stars+, so they fight even harder.. troops they will fight better too..

[chaplain118]

Free people are there to simulate the presence of several small nation states despite RTW's hard-coded limitations. Which means that each free people city you come across is technically its own city-state, which not only shows the diversity of the world at the time but also provides an appropriate challenge with the presence of the elite units of that particular culture.

[Millz]

I'm a Total war vet, played all from shogun to Napoleon. So I know allot of the game franchise but the problem remains the rebels are just eating away at every faction. And I won allot of battles against the computer in overwheling odds, but taking 3 units of beserkers allong with armoured warriors and what not as back up with only a couple of light infantry and spearmen is complete useless.

[Beggar]

I didn't really have such problems with my german campaign - are you using one-turn recruiting perchance?

[Darkie]

It's easy tbh. When I started as romans I had problems with gaul and macedon in the beginning. After a while though there were only 2 Empires left, mine and the Seleucids. My military spending was huge, really really huge and so will yours after a while

[xXEsotericXx]

It's easy tbh. When I started as romans I had problems with gaul and macedon in the beginning. After a while though there were only 2 Empires left, mine and the Seleucids. My military spending was huge, really really huge and so will yours after a while

Romans are heavly nerved, there units and other are very exspansive..... , still made the hole damn game map red...