Did they increase GB's Rifles stats?

I don't know it seems to be better than Austrian Highest price unit in every way now.
(Rifle, Windbrushe' or something can't really recall).

Also cheaper, Higer Cap, Giving me no reason to play Austrian at all.

Rifles now have 80 accuracy compared to windbusche's 75.

Originally Posted by Prince Francesca

Rifles now have 80 accuracy compared to windbusche's 75.

Not to mention ,they are better in almost every way now.
GB to Austrian
80 to 75 Acc
55 to 40 Reload
4 to 2 Bonus Charge
860 to 1230 in price
80 to 60 on Unit size
6 to 1 on Units cap.

Only 5 to 6 on Def, is better than GB

Actually the Windbusche and Rifles wield different weapons. Although the Rifles have better reload skill, their rifle is much slower to reload than the machine-gun like Windbusche. So Windbusche's firing rate are still much faster than British rifles.

What do you expect ? The Rifles had Sharpe after all, he beat the froggies single handed I read.

The problem with W.B's is that they run out of ammo to damn fast,but if you can get a good steady rate of fire with them on any line or elite line,the rate rate of kills on that unit will have them running to the hills in no time.
Also if you can sneak them up a flank in to range of unsuspecting cav you can wipe out 3 units in a minute.

Originally Posted by bushranger

The problem with W.B's is that they run out of ammo to damn fast,but if you can get a good steady rate of fire with them on any line or elite line,the rate rate of kills on that unit will have them running to the hills in no time.
Also if you can sneak them up a flank in to range of unsuspecting cav you can wipe out 3 units in a minute.

thier ammo also changed to 15 now, pretty much more than enough.

Originally Posted by MeenChawitTH

thier ammo also changed to 15 now, pretty much more than enough.

ahh good to no,the problem i use to have with them is i would run out of ammo to fast and wouldnt get enough kills to justify there price but with that increase it should let me get a extra 50 to 100 kills,so very nice.

I still prefer Windbusches, they get a much better rate of fire and more kills in my experience. The only thing I hate about such units are the Norwegian Ski Troops: "near supernatural accuracy" of 65. Yet they can't hit a line inf formation from 20 meters.

Originally Posted by emperor77

Windbüsche is the only unit that can fire in hiding (no smoke or muzzle flash), which makes them very useful.

Thanks for telling, it surely be useful tip

Originally Posted by Kripox

I still prefer Windbusches, they get a much better rate of fire and more kills in my experience. The only thing I hate about such units are the Norwegian Ski Troops: "near supernatural accuracy" of 65. Yet they can't hit a line inf formation from 20 meters.

They "just" changed Green Jacket's stats, it happened very recently

Windbüsche is the only unit that can fire in hiding (no smoke or muzzle flash), which makes them very useful.

this is ing unfair , quite expected from CA

also what the hell is this ? windbusche jaegers reloaded alot faster than any other gunpowder weapon cause they used air to reload and not gunpowder but again CA couldnt care less , all they care about is that britannia rules

Austria do get a raw deal all round as their German line inf is alomst exaclty the same in stats as Spanish line but 100 more expensive? And i agree about the windbushce jagers, they are way overpriced! Also Austria dont get any Inspire units which is pretty rough. The cavalry is probably the best part about them but its damn expensive - especially the chevaux legers - they should be around 640 cost not 710.

Originally Posted by ottomanfan

Austria do get a raw deal all round as their German line inf is alomst exaclty the same in stats as Spanish line but 100 more expensive? And i agree about the windbushce jagers, they are way overpriced! Also Austria dont get any Inspire units which is pretty rough. The cavalry is probably the best part about them but its damn expensive - especially the chevaux legers - they should be around 640 cost not 710.

I sincerely agree about the chevau-legers-useless unit.
Spanish line have no resistance to morale shocks which sucks and they flee easily, that's why they are dead cheap.
And windbusche is overpriced although they still have superior firing rate than Rifles. Should be about 1000.

Originally Posted by ottomanfan

Austria do get a raw deal all round as their German line inf is alomst exaclty the same in stats as Spanish line but 100 more expensive? And i agree about the windbushce jagers, they are way overpriced! Also Austria dont get any Inspire units which is pretty rough. The cavalry is probably the best part about them but its damn expensive - especially the chevaux legers - they should be around 640 cost not 710.

I have a soft spot for austria in MP,they are not as good as France, Prussia or GB,but you get good all round inf and 2 types to choose from plus with the special edition you get 3 really good standed line that you can use,on top of that they have decent,light and snipers plus the WB,with a bit of luck they can win a game,but still you shouldnt need luck for a 1200 buck unit to be good,and to top it off the have a great cav choice.

The Windbusche's weapon is AIR RIFLE. It's different to Sharpe's RIFLE. If two units have the same reload skill but each armed with an air rifle and rifles, the air rifle unit still fire much more faster than the rifle one. It's like militia armed with muskets and only have 15 reload still fire faster then Sharpe's 55 because muskets fire much more faster than rifle.
But I still prefer normal rifle units though, Windbusche's super firing rate (check it out, arrange a firefight between Windbusche and Rifles) will use their ammunition quickly, and provide more kills than the Rifles. But the rifles' unit size will won through though, because Windbusche is useless once they have no gunpowder.
My advice is don't waste them on skirmisher units, target them against line infantry, or better guard infantry, and you can see the kill rate rise.

I also read that WB's will beat GB"s rifles i actually tested this and the the WB's were winning the fight but ran out of bullets before routing them,because they are such a challenging unit to use i have found them alot of fun and in my experience the worst thing to do with them is use them in the skirmish,keep them hidden and try to snipe guards,cav and arty positions with them,when they work they are great fun.

I want to use the Girandoni Air Rifle - windbusche for a paint ball gun.

French troops were so demoralised by Austrian snipers with air rifles that Napoleon ordered that any man found with an air rifle was to be executed. This should be implemented in-game, windbeusche jagers should inflict a bonus morale penalty. An accuracy of 85 would also be good.

Originally Posted by Prince Francesca

The Windbusche's weapon is AIR RIFLE. It's different to Sharpe's RIFLE. If two units have the same reload skill but each armed with an air rifle and rifles, the air rifle unit still fire much more faster than the rifle one. It's like militia armed with muskets and only have 15 reload still fire faster then Sharpe's 55 because muskets fire much more faster than rifle.
But I still prefer normal rifle units though, Windbusche's super firing rate (check it out, arrange a firefight between Windbusche and Rifles) will use their ammunition quickly, and provide more kills than the Rifles. But the rifles' unit size will won through though, because Windbusche is useless once they have no gunpowder.
My advice is don't waste them on skirmisher units, target them against line infantry, or better guard infantry, and you can see the kill rate rise.

Is that mod? how come your Windbushe reloads faster than Green Jackets? (I mean in game OC)

Originally Posted by hurry234

Actually the Windbusche and Rifles wield different weapons. Although the Rifles have better reload skill, their rifle is much slower to reload than the machine-gun like Windbusche. So Windbusche's firing rate are still much faster than British rifles.

@both post; in the matter of reality, Yes , that's why I am complaining about why Windbrushe is not so special as it was anymore