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    Default Victims buried as Bosnia marks Srebrenica anniversary

    It is good that Boris Tadic is attending this ceremony since this event in 1995 was deemed a genocide by the UN tribunal.

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    The remains of more than 700 victims are buried in a mass funeral

    Hundreds of victims of the Srebrenica massacre are being buried at a ceremony to mark the 15th anniversary of the atrocity in the Bosnian town.
    The 775 coffins with the remains of newly identified victims from mass graves are being laid to rest at the Potocari cemetery, outside Srebrenica.
    More than 7,000 Muslim men and boys from the town were killed by advancing Bosnian Serb troops in July 1995.
    The massacre was the worst atrocity in Europe since World War II.
    Serbian President Boris Tadic is attending the ceremony, in what is seen as a significant gesture.
    In March, Serbia's parliament passed a landmark resolution apologising for the massacre, saying Belgrade should have done more to prevent the tragedy.
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    We must never forget the act of genocide that happened at Srebrenica. It was a crime that shamed Europe
    David Cameron UK Prime Minister Living with the memories UK will seek Srebrenica 'justice' Timeline: Siege of Srebrenica
    Srebrenica had been declared a UN safe zone, to which thousands of Bosniaks had fled during the 1992-95 Bosnian war. But the Bosnian Serb army easily overran the lightly-armed Dutch force there in July 1995.
    The massacre is the only episode of the conflict to have been deemed a genocide by the UN tribunal.
    Segregated town Thousands of people are attending the ceremony at the Potocari cemetery - the biggest Srebrenica funeral so far.
    New rows have been made for the burial of 775 victims, who will join nearly 4,000 already there.
    Hasan and Suhra Mahic, both in their 80s, will finally bury their sons Fuad and Suad.
    "I would have preferred that all of us have been killed together, then we would not have had to live through this," Hasan told the AFP news agency.
    But many Serbs in the region reject the established narrative of July 1995, the BBC's Mark Lowen in Srebrenica reports.
    "The Serb people are portrayed in the media as committing genocide, but it isn't so," Mladen Grujicic, who works for a local association helping the families of Serb victims of the war, told the BBC.
    "No Serbs contest that a crime happened in Srebrenica, but they're insulted when the numbers are manipulated," Mr Grujicic says, adding that Serb victims of the war have been forgotten.
    Despite attempts to lay the past to rest, Srebrenica remains segregated 15 years after the tragic events, our correspondent says.
    Marking the anniversary, US President Barack Obama described the massacre as "an unimaginable tragedy", saying that fugitive Bosnian Serb wartime military commander Radko Maldic and other alleged perpetrators must be brought to justice.
    UK Prime Minister David Cameron said the atrocity was "a crime that shamed Europe".



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    A sad reminder that not only muslims commit crimes, as some people want to believe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPirate View Post
    A sad reminder that not only muslims commit crimes, as some people want to believe..
    indeed all sides committed atrocities during the Yugoslav wars
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    U can't compare Serbian attrocities with any other attorcity during that war.
    That yugoslaw army wanted to exterminate the whole muslim population of bosnia.
    That's a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    U can't compare Serbian attrocities with any other attorcity during that war.
    That yugoslaw army wanted to exterminate the whole muslim population of bosnia.
    That's a fact.
    Everyone wanted to exterminate everyone at some point, so best is to keep them separate. This is why I think Kosovo and BH should be partitioned, as it's hard to make some ethnicities live together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CiviC View Post
    Everyone wanted to exterminate everyone at some point, so best is to keep them separate. This is why I think Kosovo and BH should be partitioned, as it's hard to make some ethnicities live together.
    Tito managed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Tito managed it.
    Tito barely managed it by seperating the serbs up by keeping them week compared with the other groups. Hell he even created one ethnicity for his own goal of getting more land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPirate View Post
    A sad reminder that not only muslims commit crimes, as some people want to believe..
    Well this kind of has been the reason Muslims flock around this without knowing the actual details of the situation. They can point and gawk and say "LOOOK THEY DO IT TOOO"

    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    U can't compare Serbian attrocities with any other attorcity during that war.
    That yugoslaw army wanted to exterminate the whole muslim population of bosnia.
    That's a fact.
    That's retarded. No they didn't. The Serbs in Bosnia fought against Alija Izetbegovic with Abdic's moderate Muslims. Alija's Muslims actually went to NW Bosnia and slaughtered Muslims who did not side with Alija.

    Quote Originally Posted by CiviC View Post
    Everyone wanted to exterminate everyone at some point, so best is to keep them separate. This is why I think Kosovo and BH should be partitioned, as it's hard to make some ethnicities live together.
    Not everyone wanted to exterminate everyone. The Abdic Muslims wanted to remain as part of Yugoslavia. The Serbs didn't to be part of Alija's Muslim republic of Bosnia that he envisioned and Alija wanted simply Muslims to be absolute majority more so than to exterminate the Serbs out right. The Croats...well I don't know wtf the Croats were doing but they by far had the most systematic method of killing and wiping out their enemies next to Alija's regime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    Yeah, Ratko Mladic though the Earth is flat when he entered srebrenica.
    Ratko Mladic when he was a child grew up in an ustase nazi camp. When Alija Izetbegovic and Radovan Karadzic along with the Croatians agreed to partition Bosnia along ethnic majority lines and they spoke about shifting populations, Ratko spoke out and said "this would be like genocide. People are not little stones you can put in your pocket and move around." So he was against even shifting populations. But sure demonize a man you know jack about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    Ah come on.
    Arkan also acted almost the same way but not only towards muslims also against croatian people. His paramilitary footbal troop was feared by the civilians because of their harsh and brutal combat style.
    So i can also blame almost all serbian commanders. Also don't forget the rape camps commited by the serbian officials... it's just disgusting.
    Today both are hereos by nationalistic serbs.

    Why are these people hereos in that country? I mean Arkan was also a mafia leader who gained money of drugs.
    And Mladic is somewhere in an hideout in serbia.
    Oh yes the rape camps. Because the RS could hold a 200 mile front while raping every female in Bosnia. Man those Serbs were good. you realize the claims about rape camps are almost all traced to one woman, a Croat nationalist ustashe.



    Why did Alija want Serbian land in Bosnia? Why did he have to rule all of Bosnia including the Serb majority regions who did not want to be part of his government? Why did he have to rule Abdic's factional Muslims who were moderate? Answer me that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Tito managed it.
    Yeah, by repression, coercion, and heavy handedness. The moment there was no leader strong enough to take the reins, it fell like a castle of cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    Ah come on.
    Arkan also acted almost the same way but not only towards muslims also against croatian people. His paramilitary footbal troop was feared by the civilians because of their harsh and brutal combat style.
    So i can also blame almost all serbian commanders. Also don't forget the rape camps commited by the serbian officials... it's just disgusting.
    Today both are hereos by nationalistic serbs.
    Just like the KLA is considered heroes by many Albanians, Croatian war criminals are probably also considered heroes by some Croat nationalists.
    You seem to think that the only ones that committed crimes in these wars was the Serbs.


    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Tito managed it.
    Only because of his iron fist rule and oppression. After he died, the ethnic tensions excalated. until it erupted in a civil war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Tito managed it.
    At what cost ?And actually,his constitution made the conditions for the republics to separate.

    @kralle18
    Just like the KLA is considered heroes by many Albanians, Croatian war criminals are probably also considered heroes by some Croat nationalists.
    You seem to think that the only ones that committed crimes in these wars was the Serbs.
    Albanians destroy centuries old monuments in order to build shrines and statues for terrorists,and other scum.

    Recently in Croatia you had bilboards in every larger city(guess who payed for them) that celebrated Ante Gotovina,Croat General that is accused of war crimes in the Hague.


    "merry Christmas and happy New Year,wishes you general ANTE GOTOVINA"
    and other ones "HERO!Ante Gotovina"

    Serbia would get bombed and demonized even further,if that ever happened in Belgrade.
    Of course,there's people in Serbia who still consider Mladic a hero(even a political party),but the % is rather low.There's a difference between considering him a hero,and not wanting him to be caught by Hague tribunal.(majority of Serbs don't trust Hague,and for a reason)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    U can't compare Serbian attrocities with any other attorcity during that war.
    That yugoslaw army wanted to exterminate the whole muslim population of bosnia.
    That's a fact.
    Every side in that civil war committed crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    U can't compare Serbian attrocities with any other attorcity during that war.
    That yugoslaw army wanted to exterminate the whole muslim population of bosnia.
    That's a fact.
    Yeah,just like the Earth is flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    Yeah,just like the Earth is flat.
    Yeah, Ratko Mladic though the Earth is flat when he entered srebrenica.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    Yeah, Ratko Mladic though the Earth is flat when he entered srebrenica.
    Ratko Mladic was the commander of the Bosnian Serb army, not the Serbian army. So blame lies on the government of the Republic of Srpska, not Serbia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post
    Ratko Mladic was the commander of the Bosnian Serb army, not the Serbian army. So blame lies on the government of the Republic of Srpska, not Serbia.
    He doesn't know the difference. He thinks its all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post
    Ratko Mladic was the commander of the Bosnian Serb army, not the Serbian army. So blame lies on the government of the Republic of Srpska, not Serbia.
    true, but thats not to say that the serbs didn't approve of what there countrymen were doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    U can't compare Serbian attrocities with any other attorcity during that war.
    That yugoslaw army wanted to exterminate the whole muslim population of bosnia.
    That's a fact.
    If you don't think that everyone wanted a Bosnia free of the other two then you don't know jack about the war.

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    На три свето и на три саставно,Одлазимо на Косово равно.
    Кад је драга да одлазим чула,За ревер ми невен заденула.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam89 View Post
    U can't compare Serbian attrocities with any other attorcity during that war.
    That yugoslaw army wanted to exterminate the whole muslim population of bosnia.
    That's a fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post
    Every side in that civil war committed crimes.
    Isn't this true that Serebrenica was declared a U.N. guarded city and that massacre happened in presence of U.N. troops?

    Kralle18! I have less knowledge on subject than you, but would you please provide some evidence which may prove that Bosnian atrocities were even 1/10th of what Serbs did? Even if both sides committed crimes, you should condemn both according to their proportions, but when Muslims are oppressed and massacred, "liberal" people like you level both sides by making such foolish statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    Isn't this true that Serebrenica was declared a U.N. guarded city and that massacre happened in presence of U.N. troops?
    Yes lightly armed Dutch UN troops with no heavy weaposn and no support of any kind against a larger Serbian forces with tanks and APC's. Hardly a fight they could have won. Blame the UN and NATO commanders for declining air support and overall screw up, not the troops on the ground.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    Kralle18! I have less knowledge on subject than you, but would you please provide some evidence which may prove that Bosnian atrocities were even 1/10th of what Serbs did? Even if both sides committed crimes, you should condemn both according to their proportions, but when Muslims are oppressed and massacred, "liberal" people like you level both sides by making such foolish statements.
    First of all read my previous posts on the matter and that of several others. There's plenty of sources.
    I won't try to prove that Bosnian atrocities were a 1/10th of Bosnian Serb crimes, because I never claimed they were. I claimed that all sides, that is, Bosnian Croats, Bosniaks and Bosnian Serbs, all committed atrocities, because that's how it is in a civil war, especially one that erupts between different ethnic groups.

    Secondly, I do condemn all atrocities. I simply don't know where you get the bs idea that I don't, from.

    Thirdly, I'm not levelling them, I'm simply pointing out that all sides committed atrocities. Ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing no matter who does it or if one side does it more than the other.
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