Will this PC play the game without any lag on ultra high settings.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wi.../2VTS974WCIW4H
I REALLY want to get this game, but I need a new computer to play it. Im 13 and im going to build my own computer, around Christmas the present I get will be the money to buy the parts. So I picked out what I wanted (using Empire Total war's specifications as a benchmark) and came up with that list. So I am wondering, can that play Rome, Medieval, Empire, and Napoleon all at ultra high settings without any lag?
EDIT: I already have a monitor, so dont ask.

^ You should have no problems with that rig, the only flaw i can see in it is you chose a western digital hard drive, avoid that brand like the plague.

Also by xmas anything you plan now will be obsolete, really planning anything before you have money in hand makes little sense, they'll only drop in price, and/or be replaced by newer generations of better parts.

Originally Posted by Shaio

^ You should have no problems with that rig, the only flaw i can see in it is you chose a western digital hard drive, avoid that brand like the plague.

Also by xmas anything you plan now will be obsolete, really planning anything before you have money in hand makes little sense, they'll only drop in price, and/or be replaced by newer generations of better parts.

Never had problems with Western Digital drives in the last two and half years!

Aside that you're asking in the wrong forums, this should go in the tech section or the basement

Now for the build:

I would get another memory, the ripjaws is cheaper and is better than this corsair.

The case is overpriced, with a little more you can get the P182, which coupled with the H50 you will get a quiet system.

The HD, you better get the 1tb samsumg spinpoint f3, it is much faster, and costs a little bit

the wireless card I would get one with the standard n, much faster and the routers for it are much cheaper now

the motherboard, this is the same price but you get USB 3.0 and SATA III (or 6gb/s)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128423

And I have to ask about the monitor, since this card needs at least a 1920*1080 monitor to be worthy it

And to get truly all the way down specs you need to get at least a 2g card otherwise battles that require more memory from the card i.e. battle with 10.000 troops, raining, or with snow you will ''notice'' a decrease in the textures of the units

and get better speakers at least 2.1 (meaning 2 speakers and a subwoofer) I prefer the 5.1; and from someone that knows how to build those, Harnon Kardon are a good option, although I prefer the Bang & Olufsen ones, but those are expensive.

btw the PSU is too much for this machine, you're better of with a 650w corsair and its 30 cheaper as well

We can make this cheaper also.

@Mr MM
I've been told its better to have more power than not enough. But I guess I can give it a shot.
If that resolution is required then I will need a new monitor. But I may wait to do this unless the computer gets cheaper. I got a monitor with more than minimum requirements, but it only goes to 1440x900.
Ive already got a router that is an N.
The graphics card has usually been at the top of the best graphics cards. So I think I'll stick with that one (someone played it on ultra with it)
If I made it cheaper, would I still get the same performance out of it as this system?
How big is the hard drive you reccomended?
and what is the difference between my $89 cooler master and the antec?
@Shaio
If the parts become outdated, I simply switch a few things around and it will be new again.
New rig
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wi.../2VTS974WCIW4H

try these parts:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129061

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131641

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231247

You know that the problem with someone played on ultra logic is that, I can play on ultra with a 5570. You know that don't you? Ultra with a less than 100 card.

The problem is the resolution I can still get a ultra with a 5670 or a 5770 in that low resolution that you play. If you'll buy another monitor in the future that's alright, go buy the card, if not you're wasting your money, a lot.

The Antec case has a great cooling, aside that it has some ultra expensive padding that has noise reduction capabilities.

I saw that Antec p183 and wondered about it. I just want to make sure I have the computer cool enough.
Is the 6GB of RAM good enough? Or should I buy the 6GB and an extra 2GB
Does the motherboard have PCI express slots?
EDIT:Whoa, price shot up a bit. from $1700 and something to $1968.96
Anything else I can do to make this cheaper without losing performance? I need another fan as I have to remove the rear one to install liquid cooling.

6GB is fine for your system, ETW wont use that much ram ever! Stick with three sticks of ram as this will mean you can run the ram triple channel!

At 1400x900 screen res that pc you are building will play just about anything full graphics etc, I would suggest reading up on possible CPU/Graphics card bottlenecks, because you are gaming on quite a small monitor, your graphics card can easily render that screen size, so it then passes the instructions to the CPU, but if it does it faster than the CPU can process them then a kind of backlog is constantly created! You probably will be ok though with that CPU, but something for you to look into!

ETW?
This is Napoleon Total War we are talking about. I have Empire Total War ready to put onto that computer. Thats going to be the first thing I test.
I was just asking bout RAM because its better safe than sorry, ya know?
I changed to a different hard drive per suggestion from Mr MM.

yes you can get better prices at newegg, and you can also try this:

Processor: i5 750 2.66GHZ - 194.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115215

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-H55M-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 - 109.99 (rebate 10 bucks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128429

Memory: OCZ Special Ops Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - 95 (rebate 10 bucks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227558

HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM - 74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185

Video Card: ATI HD 5850 1g - 289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150494

PSU: COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W - 69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171052

Case: Antec P183 -149.99 (rebate 20 bucks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129061

Total (with rebates) - 944.94

might change the board and the processor to the LGA 1366 family and you should be good, and use the memory that I posted here

yes you can get better prices at newegg, and you can also try this:

Processor: i5 750 2.66GHZ - 194.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115215

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-H55M-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 - 109.99 (rebate 10 bucks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128429

Memory: OCZ Special Ops Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - 95 (rebate 10 bucks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227558

HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM - 74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185

Video Card: ATI HD 5850 1g - 289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150494

PSU: COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W - 69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171052

Case: Antec P183 -149.99 (rebate 20 bucks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129061

Total (with rebates) - 944.94

might change the board and the processor to the LGA 1366 family and you should be good, and use the memory that I posted here

I would like the processor to be at least 2.80 to be safe, also an i7 as the i7 has an 8MB cache. (i7 is LGA 1366, correct?)
I would also prefer the card to be the HD 5870, as it is the fastest at the moment.
I would like at least 6GB of RAM
What motherboard for the i7 do you suggest? And is it okay if I get parts off different sites to get the best prices?
Its $1806.98 with a combination of Newegg and Amazon (sometimes Amazon's price was better)

so just make the changes, I'm not costumer service

I did.
Lol, I like that. You're statement transfers to "Get off your lazy bum and do it yourself. Lazy bum."
it was $1804.98 with the game and everything else. I dont know of any other changes that would make this less expensive without dropping performance.

You want to play with what the big boys play, you pay their prices. Personally, I can't afford it. I built one last year for $800 that probably won't do ultra good but it takes care of my needs. Give me another grand and I'll build one the game will bottleneck instead of the computer.

you could keep the i5 750, since you will not utilize the i7 930 to what is meant to. The chip has a high oc capability with people getting 4ghz with just air, not that the h50 is much better at all. Some people get 3+ with just the cooler the oem cooler

you could drop the 5870 and get a 5770 since you will not use even this card to its full with your current resolution. And since you don't think of upgrading the monitor the more than double the expense is a waste of money.

or you can just stick to what I have posted earlier.

With the 5770, will I not see a drop in performance?
What about the 5850? It is cheaper and supposed to be very good, just a little slower than the 5870. Performance drop? Not that I can see. So I guess I'll go with that card.

performance drop?

kid you're play with a low resolution monitor, after 30 fps the things don't matter, but if you want to know the 5770 is for 1920*1080 game play

And the processor? You're not going to stress it... Or if your only concern is the clock we can put a AMD phenom II with some 3.2 ghz and your going to be so happy.


And btw high bother getting the H50 cooler if you're not going to OC the thing?

And seriously there is no problem that I can see for you to not get the several dollars cheaper 1156 platform, do you plan to use crossfire? If so the performance drop is negligible too, if at all noticed below the realm of 2560*1600

Originally Posted by Mr MM

performance drop?

kid you're play with a low resolution monitor, after 30 fps the things don't matter, but if you want to know the 5770 is for 1920*1080 game play

And the processor? You're not going to stress it... Or if your only concern is the clock we can put a AMD phenom II with some 3.2 ghz and your going to be so happy.


And btw high bother getting the H50 cooler if you're not going to OC the thing?

And seriously there is no problem that I can see for you to not get the several dollars cheaper 1156 platform, do you plan to use crossfire? If so the performance drop is negligible too, if at all noticed below the realm of 2560*1600

My concern about the processor used to be the clock. But then I found out other things affect it. Like the cache, the i7 has an 8MB cache with a good clock speed. Sure, I may overclock it if I feel like it. But then again it has turbo mode that automatically boosts its performance(supposedly). But the AMD has a 6MB cache, a better clock speed, and is cheaper. Im building the computer for amazing gaming, and not much else (not audio/video editing or things like that) so would AMD be my best option? They say AMD is faster for gaming.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103674
or this
http://www.amazon.com/Phenom-Black-3...8882061&sr=8-3

As for the Crossfire mode, no. For now I dont plan on doing that, maybe when games are optimized for it.
I think I'm going to stick with the 5850 for now. Just to play it safe. As it seems that placed next to the 5850, the 5770 falls flat (according to many users)

I got the H50 because the cooler it is, the better it performs. Aside from that the H50 is quieter than fans.

EDIT:Holy shizzle! I changed the processor from an i7 2.80GHz 8MB cache to the phenom 3.4GHz 6MB cache and it dropped the price majorly! The price is now $1313.35! With the savings, I could get a better monitor and speakers!

Yep did you saw that....

we always like to put what is best of the best, not what are we going to use it... in the end the budget has to reflect reality.

I got the H50 because the cooler it is, the better it performs. Aside from that the H50 is quieter than fans.

nope no reasoning here, the cpu will perform its duties with constant performance no matter what temps in it, given that the temp is in the operational threshold in this case up to 100c. There will be no drop in performance. But the point of it being quieter is a good one.

the price will drop since the processor is half the price, you can also shave half the price in the motherboard, if you use one from my desktop builds in the desktop tread.

you can also shave the price with a lower memory since AMD processors don't use more than 1333Mhz, and be sure to put them in a dual channel config, not triple channel

When the time comes that games will be optimized for multiple cards.... I will be probably being a father to a teenager

BTW don't buy the 965 not worth the price the 955 will be more than enough for your needs

Originally Posted by Mr MM

Yep did you saw that....

we always like to put what is best of the best, not what are we going to use it... in the end the budget has to reflect reality.



nope no reasoning here, the cpu will perform its duties with constant performance no matter what temps in it, given that the temp is in the operational threshold in this case up to 100c. There will be no drop in performance. But the point of it being quieter is a good one.

the price will drop since the processor is half the price, you can also shave half the price in the motherboard, if you use one from my desktop builds in the desktop tread.

you can also shave the price with a lower memory since AMD processors don't use more than 1333Mhz, and be sure to put them in a dual channel config, not triple channel

When the time comes that games will be optimized for multiple cards.... I will be probably being a father to a teenager

BTW don't buy the 965 not worth the price the 955 will be more than enough for your needs

The 965 is $20 more. And has a higher clock speed. but I should get the 955? Okay.
So 1333mhz DDR3 memory? Should I still get 6GB?