question about recruiting in conquered settlements??

[gamer77]

hi,i am new to the mod i do really like it but i dont seem to be able to recruit my troops in settlements i have conquered even when i build the buildings,is there a reason for this thanks in advance

[Berkut]

yes, read this thread: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=274922

[gamer77]

thanks 4 the link,read it cant say i fully understand it but i will continue with my koj campaign and see what happens,norman knights kick ass,cant wait till i get templers

[Berkut]

you can only recruit your factions units in your factions historical lands basically. All other regions you capture will only have crappy levy troops (or some none at all) and a few regions have decent local nobles units, which are too few to really help you, so in the end your "core regions" are the only ones you can train good troops in. I would advise converting at least one other core town into a castle for additional recruitment and convert ALL captured castles into towns for additional income.

[gamer77]

i am not to keen on the sound of that but thanks for taking the time to explain,i think it would be better if it worked on religion for example once you get your conquered region to say 50% you should be able to recruit your factions weaker units and once above say 70% then it should be possible to recruit your better factions units,something like that anyway

[wudang_clown]

The thing is that this particular recruitment issue of KoJ determines uniqueness of factional campaign.

Problems with recruitment are linked with lack of European manpower in Middle East. It wouldn't be possible to recruit European sergeants of knights in Baghdad, even if somehow its population had converted to catholicism in 100%. European feudalism was something different than Islamic social systems, so it's change of mentality that would be a necessity...

I don't think we will widen availability of European troops in the Middle East - this isn't likely to happen. What is an option is to give more local auxilia and regional nobles to the player... But w haven't touched that thing yet, so we will see.

[gamer77]

yeah i do understand this and it makes perfect sense,only historical accuracy can sometimes take away some of the fun i think.sometimes a player just simply wants to choose his favorite looking faction and conquer the whole campaign map by recruiting that factions units and fighting battles.

[wudang_clown]

Yes. In that case you can mod the files yourself. It's not that hard and TWC has guides and resources and support to make it very easy.

[gamer77]

yes this is something i will look at,but not until i have finished my current campaign with koj.btw am am not slaging off BC its great with some great looking units,it just comes down to personal preferance i guess.if i played as egypt would it be possible to recruit more of my factions units???

[wudang_clown]

Yes, iirc, Ayyubids have easier access to factional troops.

[nhinhonhinho]

Islam factions especially Sejiuk,Rum or Ayubid can train and retrain some of their good troop in the large part of the map

I think the easiest troop I can train and retrain is RB bow and Ghulams.They're appease nearly everywhere and they often form the bulk of my army alongside with various local (and weak) archers

[Iguanaonastick]

Ideally I'd love to see a system like Europa Barbarorum has, where you can make entire viable armies out of regional troops.

In Europa Barbarorum, my Romans have a client army in Spain made up out of Celtiberian troops, a client army in Thrace composed of Thracian and Galatian troops, a client army in Gaul consisting of various Gallic and Alpine troops, etc. They're more limited than the Roman and Italian armies and often lack elites. But it allows for a great deal of variety and fits history.

Balancing a system like this out probably would be a pain, but I imagine it would be possible. It wouldn't require actual addition units to be made as the system'd simply recycle other factions' units.