Hoplite with spear?

[Zippy]

Is it possible to add the spear attribute to hoplites without messing up the overhand?
Also, do the bonuses and penalties stack if you have the spear attribute and short_pike?
And what exactly are the set bonuses and penalties that spear, short_pike, light_spear, and long_pike,spear_bonus_8 apply?
Another thing, why isn't light_spear listed as a usable attribute in the EDU, and yet is used by all of the spear armed troops? What does it do? Can you create your own attributes?

I apologize for the slight irrelevance this post as I'm simply trying to find out the effects of the different attributes for my own experiments, but I've always been curious as to how these attributes are handled and whether or not they can be altered

[Quinn Inuit]

Spear might not mess up the overhand, but it will mess up their behavior: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...29#post1167229
(FYI: the author of that post was a key member of the RTRPE team)

I'm pretty sure the (light_)spear bonus stacks with the bonus_8. Long_pike I don't think does anything anymore, as it was considered redundant with phalanx in 1.5 (I'm not positive about that).

Not sure why light spear's not mentioned...it's definitely one of the acceptable ones. You cannot define your own, sadly.