War of 1812 DLC is next

Count on it.

Ok

The War of 1812 makes about no sense in NTW. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it added, but not before many more important campaigns were added to the real war.

The War of 1812 may be important to my American cultural memory, but it was a side show compared to what was going on in the rest of the world.

Clarification: did OP mean the North American War of 1812, or the invasion of Russia in 1812?

Originally Posted by TommyAtkins

Clarification: did OP mean the North American War of 1812, or the invasion of Russia in 1812?

I think he meant the American "War of 1812," since that is what it is called in the U.S. (even thought that war lasted until 1815). Not sure why that would be the next DLC though.

Originally Posted by busboy999

The War of 1812 makes about no sense in NTW. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it added, but not before many more important campaigns were added to the real war.

Why not? It take place around the same time period.

Originally Posted by EvilNelson666

Why not? It take place around the same time period.

I'm not opposed to having the War of 1812 added, I just think it should come (if ever) after other Napoleonic campaigns are done.

The War of 1812 would be a great addition, but just because it occured at the same time period and involved one of the major combatants doesn't mean it was a part of the Napoleonic Wars.

And by the way: I sincerely hope this thread doesn't turn into yet another bout of fellow Americans arguing with our European brothers about who's national penises are larger. The War of 1812 absolutely has merits as DLC, both in terms of military history and financially as the American game market might make such an add on profitable. Its simply my opinion (as an American mind you) that the game should be the best representation of the Napoleonic Wars possible.

Now, I would LOVE to see the NTW engine used to make a game of the War Between the States. That would kick ass.

Originally Posted by busboy999

Now, I would LOVE to see the NTW engine used to make a game of the War Between the States. That would kick ass.

War between the States? Do you mean the American Civil War? In which case, yeah, awsome!

Originally Posted by cpdwane

War between the States? Do you mean the American Civil War? In which case, yeah, awsome!

Yea. Being a Texan I usually refer to that war by the term I feel best discribes it. "The War of Northern Agression" is a bit over the top even for me.

Originally Posted by busboy999

I'm not opposed to having the War of 1812 added, I just think it should come (if ever) after other Napoleonic campaigns are done.

The War of 1812 would be a great addition, but just because it occured at the same time period and involved one of the major combatants doesn't mean it was a part of the Napoleonic Wars.

And by the way: I sincerely hope this thread doesn't turn into yet another bout of fellow Americans arguing with our European brothers about who's national penises are larger. The War of 1812 absolutely has merits as DLC, both in terms of military history and financially as the American game market might make such an add on profitable. Its simply my opinion (as an American mind you) that the game should be the best representation of the Napoleonic Wars possible.

Now, I would LOVE to see the NTW engine used to make a game of the War Between the States. That would kick ass.

Another benefit: the current 'problem' that the largest battles in NTW are about 1500 vs 1500 is no longer a problem, as that was near the size of large battles in the War of 1812.
Also, hope you like having a navy of sloops and brigs exclusively until late 1813, when you gain frigates, and late 1814, when first-rates show up.

Originally Posted by TommyAtkins

Another benefit: the current 'problem' that the largest battles in NTW are about 1500 vs 1500 is no longer a problem, as that was near the size of large battles in the War of 1812.
Also, hope you like having a navy of sloops and brigs exclusively until late 1813, when you gain frigates, and late 1814, when first-rates show up.

actually you should recall that the US had several operational frigates before 1800 and aftter several granted small scale losses the british admiralty forbade frigate encounters one on one - the only significant loss being the chesapeake where the captain decided not to cross the rear of the british frigate and lost

Originally Posted by busboy999

The War of 1812 makes about no sense in NTW. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it added, but not before many more important campaigns were added to the real war.

The War of 1812 may be important to my American cultural memory, but it was a side show compared to what was going on in the rest of the world.

Yea and what exactly did the Warpath Campaign have to do with Empire?

Originally Posted by KingIzzystero

Yea and what exactly did the Warpath Campaign have to do with Empire?

well dealing with the natives in North America had plenty to do with the expanding empires of Spain, Britain and France.

The poster is just saying that Napoleon had really nothing to do with the War of 1812.

On a side note, it would be cool for the next DLC to be Napoleon's German conquests. Factions could be France, Bavaria, Prussia, Saxony, etc.

Originally Posted by busboy999

The War of 1812 makes about no sense in NTW. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it added, but not before many more important campaigns were added to the real war.

The War of 1812 may be important to my American cultural memory, but it was a side show compared to what was going on in the rest of the world.

It was probably one reason Napoleon felt comfortable invading Russia; Britain was now engaged in a ground war with the US and couldn't spare troops to threaten central Europe.

Originally Posted by Shellshock1918

It was probably one reason Napoleon felt comfortable invading Russia; Britain was now engaged in a ground war with the US and couldn't spare troops to threaten central Europe.

England couldn't spare troops for Europe beforehand either. The policy of Britain was to fight Napoleon at sea and pay the powers of Europe to do the other fighting on the land. The Iberian peninsula later in the war was the exception to this policy, and even then that was in support of other armies.

In the meantime, England was more than happy to gobble up French colonies and make an attempt at swiping Spanish posessions in the Americas...with troops that could have supported their allies on the continent.

Originally Posted by Shellshock1918

It was probably one reason Napoleon felt comfortable invading Russia; Britain was now engaged in a ground war with the US and couldn't spare troops to threaten central Europe.

Doubt it, Napoleon invaded Russia only a few days after Americans declare war, so he probably wouldn't have heard about it for another month or so.

And I'm pretty sure Napoleon did not feel threatened at all by British army at that time.

Originally Posted by redcoat22

Count on it.

That's a bold statement.

Think he meant Russian war of 1812.

I'm wondering how many Europeans actually know about American war of 1812?

EDIT:
Besides British

Originally Posted by Chewie

Think he meant Russian war of 1812.

I'm wondering how many Europeans actually know about American war of 1812?

And i wondering how many Norteamericans actually know that Spain is not in México?

Originally Posted by ronchas

And i wondering how many Norteamericans actually know that Spain is not in México?

And....that have to do with, this topic?