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    Default Why Are Some People Allowed To Get Away with Crimes of Mass Destruction?

    which ppl you ask?
    ers like Greenspan who created conditions which allowed the great Recession to happen and the regulators who allowed it to happen; all they ever got were some harsh words from some geriatric senators wanting to look good for the cameras.

    but that's just one example of the appalling cronyism i see every day in government;
    food for thought:

    source: http://www.warisboring.com/

    in short,

    Why are those powerful or rich allowed to get away with crimes/sins that have far reaching and even debilitating effects on the common man, you or me?
    doesnt that go against the very idea of a Rule of Law?
    that it doesnt matter how high up ppl are, or how rich they are, they're not immune to the law or justice or the greater good.

    someone like Greenspan would've been tied to the back of a pickup and dragged around the country in some places of the world, instead that old prick is shacked up with his luxury and riches

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    Because there rich.

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    The Rule of Law protects us from people like you to be quite honest about it.
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    because they are not doctors to get jail for negligence or Malpractice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    ...ers like Greenspan who created conditions which allowed the great Recession to happen and the regulators who allowed it to happen; all they ever got were some harsh words from some geriatric senators wanting to look good for the cameras.
    These people are protected by law so that they never have to worry about frivolous lawsuits and prison time for their mistakes. Mistakes are inevitable. It makes sense from a completely objective POV.

    Greenspan and the Fed Governors did make some egregious errors towards the end of his tenure. They were mistakes of judgment and not capricious in nature. It's hard to argue for prison time for him alone as he wasn't to only one calling the shots. As for the regulators of the industries involved - there was a decided antagonism against regulation during the Bush years. Budgets were cut in many regulatory offices. There was definitely a lack of care across the board but there isn't much that can be done now except to change the system.


    ...Why are those powerful or rich allowed to get away with crimes/sins that have far reaching and even debilitating effects on the common man, you or me?
    doesnt that go against the very idea of a Rule of Law?
    that it doesnt matter how high up ppl are, or how rich they are, they're not immune to the law or justice or the greater good....
    Because they have the money. Which gives them a certain amount of influence. Which also affords them the ability to shape law. Sad but true.

    Unless you're really into changing the dynamic in DC then there is really nothing to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoleCat View Post
    Do you ever contribute to a debate in any constructive way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    As my sig says, I'm just a horrified spectator.
    More or less horrified.

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    We are living in a world where war criminals of America punish Serbs and Iraqis for war crimes, just because they were weak criminals and in our global village, only weak criminals are punished and ridiculously they are punished by much bigger criminals. 'Might is Right' is the only principle which is being followed in our global village.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    We are living in a world where war criminals of America punish Serbs and Iraqis for war crimes, just because they were weak criminals and in our global village, only weak criminals are punished and ridiculously they are punished by much bigger criminals. 'Might is Right' is the only principle which is being followed in our global village.
    I'm shocked that you would defend people who were massacring innocent Muslims, in order to criticize the USA.

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    Yeah well I believe he has voiced support of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    We are living in a world where war criminals of America punish Serbs and Iraqis for war crimes, just because they were weak criminals and in our global village, only weak criminals are punished and ridiculously they are punished by much bigger criminals. 'Might is Right' is the only principle which is being followed in our global village.
    The answer for you: Get mightier! Then we poor weak Americans will call you "war criminals" ...

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    Because none of these decisions were made with the benefit of hindsight and you probably supported or would support them if you were in the same position?
    besides, none of these decisions were related to individual policy, they were decisions made and implemented within a group based on consensus, so it would be utterly ridicolous to blame one individual thats at the head and leave it at that.
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    Because the Us is wormed through and through by a criminal cabal- on all levels. May it be the law, the school curriculum, the economics, the media, the banking, the lobbies, the dual citizens, even her religion is wormed by them.
    Before the US doesnt find a worm cure, things will continue to debase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    Because the Us is wormed through and through by a criminal cabal- on all levels. May it be the law, the school curriculum, the economics, the media, the banking, the lobbies, the dual citizens, even her religion is wormed by them.
    Before the US doesnt find a worm cure, things will continue to debase.
    Hint: for "worm" read "Jew".

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    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jom View Post
    Hint: for "worm" read "Jew".
    The cabal I refer to is atheist and not "jewish". But a good chunk fo them labels them as such wrongfully.
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts
    "Our" government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the establishment of Talmudic "courts of justice" to be administered by disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.

    Maimonides ruled that it is a Jewish court -- or a court appointed by Jewish authority --that enforces obedience and passes judgment on Gentiles, as well as promulgating legislation by court order for that purpose. Maimonides further decreed that any non-Jewish nation "not subject to our jurisdiction" (tahaht yadeinu) will be the target of Jewish holy war. (Cf. Hilkhot Melakhim 8:9-10; 10:11. Also cf. Gerald J. Blidstein, "Holy War in Maimonidean Law," in Perspectives on Maimonides [Oxford, England: Oxford Univ. Press, 1991].

    These courts are to be convened allegedly under the "Noahide Laws" (proscriptions against idolatry supposedly based on the covenant with Noah). The U.S. presidents and Congress urged the adoption of the "Noahide" Laws as interpreted by Chabad-Lubavitch Grand Rabbi Schneerson.

    Prof. Easterly of the Southern University Law Center, a Jewish legal expert, has compared this Public law 102-14 to the "first rays of dawn" which "evidence the rising of a still unseen sun."

    The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible world order immediately preceding the universal reign of the Talmud.
    It has to be understood that we are not dealing with the Noah of the Bible when the religion of Judaism refers to "Noahide law," but the Noahide law as understood and interpreted by the absolute system of falsification that constitutes the Talmud.
    Under the Talmud's counterfeit Noahide Laws, the worship of Jesus is forbidden under penalty of death, since such worship of Christ is condemned by Judaism as idolatry. Meanwhile various forms of incest are permitted under the Talmudic understanding of the Noahide code. (Enziklopediya Talmudit, note 1, pp. 351-352).

    Furthermore, all non-Jews would have the legal status of ger toshav ("resident alien," cf. Alan Unterman, Dictionary of Jewish Lore and Legend [London: Thames and Hudson, 1991], p. 148), even in their own land; as for example in occupied Palestine where newly arrived Khazars from Russia have an automatic right to housing and citizenship, while two million Palestinian refugees who either fled or were expelled by the Israelis, are forbidden the right of return.

    Resident alien status has been clearly delineated in scholarly articles in leading Jewish publications. For example, Hebrew University Professor Mordechai Nisan, basing his exposition on Maimonides, stated that a non-Jew permitted to reside in a land ruled by Jewish law "must accept paying a tax and suffering the humiliation of servitude."

    If Gentiles refuse to live a life of inferiority, then this signals their rebellion and the unavoidable necessity of Jewish warfare against their very presence. [Cf. Mordechai Nisan, Kivunim (official publication of the World Zionist Organization), August, 1984, pp. 151-156].
    At a symposium ("Is Autonomy for Resident Aliens Feasible?") organized by Israeli Minister of Education Shulamit Aloni, the Israeli Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren repeated the Talmudic teaching on resident aliens: that Judaism forbids "granting any national rights" to them. He ruled that such "Autonomy is tantamount to a denial of the Jewish religion." (Nadav Shraggai, Ha'aretz, Oct. 14, 1992).
    American taxpayers' subsidy of the so-called "U.S. Holocaust Museum" in Washington, D.C., is yet another indicator of the gradual establishment of a Jewish state religion in the U.S. This "Holocaust museum" excludes any reference to holocausts perpetrated by Jewish Communists against Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe, from 1917 onward.

    The focus of the museum is almost entirely on Jewish suffering. Holocausts perpetrated by Israelis against Arabs in Lebanon and Palestine since 1948 are nowhere to be found in the exhibits of the U.S. "Holocaust Museum," which functions more like a synagogue than a repository of objective historical information.

    It is through the rapid emergence of this ostensibly secular but all-pervasive "Holocaustianity" -- whereby the religion of Judaism is gaining enormous power and influence as mankind's supreme ethos and the creed of God's Holy People.
    http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html



    President Obama’s Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan is perfect in every way – perfect that is if you think the role of the highest judicial body in the United States is to ban free speech, indefinitely detain Americans without trial, resurrect command and control socialism, while urinating on everything the Constitution stands for.
    We already discovered Kagan’s penchant for treating Americans as guilty until proven innocent, or in fact just plain guilty without even the chance to be proven innocent, when she was quoted as saying, “That someone suspected of helping finance Al Qaeda should be subject to battlefield law — indefinite detention without a trial — even if he were captured in a place like the Philippines rather than a physical battle zone.”
    So under that definition, if you send money to a charity later linked with some nebulous terrorist group then you are financing Al-Qaeda and could be thrown in Gitmo or some other CIA black site never to be seen again. And this is the woman being forwarded to sit on a body that is supposed to safeguard civil liberties? That would be like hiring Charles Manson to coach the high school basketball team.
    But it gets worse. Now we learn that Kagan thinks certain expressions of free speech should be ‘disappeared’ if the government deems them to be offensive. On the surface that’s any opinion on racial, sexuality or gender issues, but since criticizing Obama is now deemed racist, where will it all end?


    • In a 1993 University of Chicago Law review article, Kagan wrote, “I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation.” (emphasis mine).“In a 1996 paper, “Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine,” Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government,” reports World Net Daily.Kagan also argued as recently as September that corporations shouldn’t be allowed to engage in free speech, and that the government can censor things like newspaper editorials, as well as the political opinions of radio talk show hosts or television reporters.Chief Justice John Roberts blasted Kagan’s argument at the time, reports Newsmax.


    “The government urges us in this case to uphold a direct prohibition on political speech. It asks us to embrace a theory of the First Amendment that would allow censorship not only of television and radio broadcasts, but of pamphlets, posters, the Internet, and virtually any other medium that corporations and unions might find useful in expressing their views on matters of public concern,” he wrote.
    Kagan’s standpoint on free speech, that it is subject to regulation and definition by the government, has no place in America, completely violates the fundamental premise of the First Amendment, that even unpopular speech should be protected, and would be better suited for countries like Iran, Zimbabwe or North Korea.
    Little surprise therefore when we learn that in her undergraduate thesis at Princeton, Kagan lamented the decline of socialism in the U.S. as “sad” for those who still hope to “change America.”
    If Kagan is approved she is going to find an eager ally in White House information czar Cass Sunstein, who in a January 2008 white paper entitled “Conspiracy Theories,” called for the government to tax and outright censor political viewpoints it deemed unsavory.
    http://www.infowars.com/kagan-disapp...-it-offensive/
    Last edited by Amagi; June 30, 2010 at 08:53 AM.
    I do the wrong, and first begin to brawl.
    The secret mischiefs that I set abroach

    I lay unto the grievous charge of others.


    And thus I clothe my naked villainy

    With odd old ends, stol'n out of holy writ;

    And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."

    Shakespeare´s "Richard III"

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    Lets not allow every thread to be derailed by talk of magical Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    doesnt that go against the very idea of a Rule of Law?
    that it doesnt matter how high up ppl are, or how rich they are, they're not immune to the law or justice or the greater good.

    The golden rule is in effect - those with the gold make the rules. They have set up the law of the land to escape taking responsibility, they hide behind corporate law, for example. The institutions are set up in a way that they are "constituted to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority" (James Madison).

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    It has been like that since the dawn of time. And it will probably continue to be so until the end of time (or at least end of humanity). If you are powerful enough, who will punish you?

    As poet said "Might is right" nothing else.

    USA is too powerful to be held accountable and its leaders can do whatever they please. Same goes for few other powerful countries (and corporations), it is like a mutual agreement that different mafias have, "I do not touch you, you do not touch me, and screw the people and those weak enough to be screwed". If any one breaks this agreement likely both mafias will suffer or even be destroyed.
    Ugly as the north end of a pig going south

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