[VI 2 Submod] The Last Kingdom (TLK)

[Keyser Soze]

I think it needs some balancing etc., although it is extremely hard to determine the size of the forces actually involved due to the lack of primary sources concerning this.

we spent any time for balancing. but your feelings could help if there will be any new patch. if I good remember the recommended settings were Hard/Hard. the size of units was set up by Battle at Hastings, the normal size unit is half of forces in reality.

The gold/silver weapons & armored peasants are also rather unrealistic.

who has silver/gold weapons? armoured peasants? which one?

I think MoN or someone put those in as a humorous joke more or less.

there were any problems with models, but no one unit is a joke

[Aradan]

There are no peasants with upgrades anywhere present at game start. These are revolt units, which are hardcoded to get upgrades. Having them as very small peasant units is the best solution we could think of about them; if you have any suggestions feel free to make them; in the NI forum, where such discussion would be on topic.

[christof139]

Yeah, those are the ones. The reason NI is mentioned here is because someone else mentioned another version of NI that they have made. Forget the rest, since it's somewhat frantic, rude, stupid, egotiscal, etc. nonsense. Have a good one.

[Serapio]

hi,

is there a chance to play also the other factions in this wonderfull submod?

[DaVinci]

hi,

is there a chance to play also the other factions in this wonderfull submod?

Why? ... makes no sense for this special scenario-mod.
There is the original VI2 for this purpose.

Technically, you only need to insert back all factions as playable. The know-how can be found in the RTW workshop (easy thing, same procedere for all RTW based mods).

[Serapio]

i like the mercians and their cavalry. in this scenario they have other starting conditions and i thought, it would be interesting to fight together with wessex. i´ve played the uthred-campaign till the i conquered york. and now i want to try something else. thanx for the info.

[DaVinci]

i like the mercians and their cavalry. in this scenario they have other starting conditions and i thought, it would be interesting to fight together with wessex. i´ve played the uthred-campaign till the i conquered york. and now i want to try something else. thanx for the info.

Ok. To play Mercia whatsoever, although TLK is a scenario-mod ... just open

...:\...\...\Rome - Total War\bi\VI2\data\world\maps\campaign\barbarian_invasion

(... stands for your RTW location-path)

Then open the file

descr_strat.txt

Find this in the first lines

playable
	saxons	;   Wessex (Saxon)
	huns ;      Danes (Viking)
	;vandals ;   Norwegians (Viking)
end
unlockable
end
nonplayable
	franks ;    Mercia (Saxon)
	sarmatians ;Northumbria (Saxon)
	sassanids ; East Angle (Saxon)
	;huns ;      Danes (Viking)				
	vandals ;   Norwegians (Viking)
	goths ;     Welsh (Celtic)
	alemanni ;  Alba (Celtic/Gaelic)
	celts ;     Leinster (Celtic/Gaelic)
	ostrogoths ;Ui Neill (Celtic/Gaelic)	
	slave
end

Change it to (bold part is the change)

playable
	saxons	;   Wessex (Saxon)
	huns ;      Danes (Viking)
	;vandals ;   Norwegians (Viking)
        franks ;    Mercia (Saxon)
end
unlockable
end
nonplayable
	
	sarmatians ;Northumbria (Saxon)
	sassanids ; East Angle (Saxon)
	;huns ;      Danes (Viking)				
	vandals ;   Norwegians (Viking)
	goths ;     Welsh (Celtic)
	alemanni ;  Alba (Celtic/Gaelic)
	celts ;     Leinster (Celtic/Gaelic)
	ostrogoths ;Ui Neill (Celtic/Gaelic)	
	slave
end

Close and save the file. Close everything.

(Make the same with every faction you wanna play, but not recommended for slave. In case of vandals (Norwegians), just remove the semicolon in front of vandals)

Start a new campaign.

[TW-fanboy]

I read somewhere, that Uthred cannot get land and titles, only war leader (or sth. similar).Why? At least he should get titles in Northumbria (lordship of Beornice, his home).

[DaVinci]

At least he should get titles in Northumbria (lordship of Beornice, his home).

Find it out

[TW-fanboy]

Find it out

I just looked it up in the export_descr_ancilarries and

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

he can become lord of beornice, what makes me very happy

But I am curious: The province descriptions say you need this and the following provinces to become king of xyz ifyou are saxon. But in the export_descr_character traits, only the faction leader of, for example, Northumbria can become king of Northumbria, the west saxon king cannot. Did you change that or is it from the original mod.
Andanother question: Can I recruit/ reinforce utherd's men somewhere?

[DaVinci]

As for regional titles, i added Uhtred-disclaimers, so to speak. The mod is done with the said novel background, as explained in the introduction.
Yes, you can reinforce and recruit Uhtred's men in one location, find it out

[TW-fanboy]

Yes, you can reinforce and recruit Uhtred's men in one location, find it out

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

You could simply tell me...I searched in the files and for this unit, the hidden ressource uht_men is necessary, and the descr_regions says it is in Middel Seaxe...
Why aren't they recruitable in Beornice aswell?

[DaVinci]

You wanna know all secrets of this mod ... lol. Imo. a mod has more charme if there are some surprises.

As for the latter question: Yes, you are right in general, but along the said novel(s), he wouldn't govern Beornice ... however, if i update this mod, then they will be recruitable in Beornice as well. You can do this by yourself, just add an according hr to edb and dr files, but it would need a new campaign start (and of course removal of the map.rwm).

[TW-fanboy]

Are you still working on the mod or is 1.1 going to be the final version?

[DaVinci]

Atm. it is final. Could be that i find the mood to take my hands on it once more, but it is not sure.

[christof139]

Atm. it is final. Could be that i find the mood to take my hands on it once more, but it is not sure.

Wait till the 6th novel is finished in 2011 I think it is. Then I bet Uthred becomes lord of Bamburgh. The Scots will attack in this 6th & last novel as is definitely hinted at at the end of the 5th novel. Then you will have to add this to the mod. I still have to load v.1.1 because I have been busy & going through treatments & am tired. I look forward to v.1.1 & see OPs like it & so will I.

I think I will change Ivar the Boneless' name to Ivar the Bonehead because it sounds better & reminds me of a former employer that I sued.

[TW-fanboy]

Why do the levy troops so many turns to recruit? (peasant levy2 turns, ceorls 3 turns) Shouldn't they be fast to recruit?
Andwhy did you balance this mod for medium unit size? Isn't large more realistic?

[jackx]

The original VI2/DoB are also balanced for medium.

Larger unit sizes create all sorts of population/economy problems, and of course the larger the units, the more inept the AI will be in handling them on the battlefield.

You can probably get away with playing on large without changing anything (or at least it's been claimed to work decently for VI2/DoB), or you could simply add pop growth across the board for large or huge, but whatever you do, it'll leave the player with an increased advantage over the AI, both on the strategic and battle map.

[TW-fanboy]

Then I will play on medium.

[DaVinci]

The Scots will attack in this 6th & last novel as is definitely hinted at at the end of the 5th novel.

Correct ... you mean Constantin and his son, right?

Then you will have to add this to the mod.

Perhaps that might be indeed the point, that provokes an update, or better said a second setup for the start situation (= extra campaign), just with its own subtitle and reflection, which considers The Burning Land and the upcoming novel ... if i still mod in 2011.