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    Default [Amendment] - Section I - Article II Modifications

    I like "General Staff". "Branch Staff" makes it sound like Hex can't be part of branches (I'm not tech staff?), and "Operational Staff" doesn't seem to make much sense. "General Staff" is suitably vague-sounding that we can make up a meaning for it. So, also taking the opportunity to make it more succinct:
    The entire Section I should be deleted and replaced as follows:

    Section I - The ExecutiveThe Executive is composed of the Hexagon Members, Senior Staff Officers and Staff Officers, who run the Site.

    Article I. The Hexagon CouncilThe Hexagon Council is the overarching governing body of the site. It is composed of Permanent Members and Non Permanent Members representing the needs of the Executive at any given time. All Hexagon Members fulfill normal day-to-day duties and all should discuss and co-ordinate their policies inside the Hexagon Council.



    Permanent MembersThere shall be four Permanent members on the Hexagon Council:
    • The Site Owner
    • Chief Moderator - Serves as Head of the Moderation Branch
    • Chief of Content - Serves as Head of the Content Branch
    • Chief Technician - Serves as Head of the Technical Branch

    The three Branch Chiefs shall lead their branch, and be the principal officer responsible for policy within the three branches. It shall normally be presumed that they shall be selected from within their branch.

    The appointment of each branch chief is decided by the Hexagon Council but must be ratified by the Staff of the branch they are being appointed too.


    Non Permanent Hexagon MembersAn undefined number of non permanent Hexagon members may be appointed by the Hexagon Council as and when necessary. Normally these Hexagon members shall be drawn from the Staff ranks, but other members of the site may be invited in.


    Article II. The Moderation BranchThe Moderation Branch is responsible for maintaining order within the Site Forum and enforcement of the Terms of Service. Moderators are the only members of Staff invested with general moderating powers.

    Senior Staff - StrategosThe Strategos are Senior Moderators, led by the Chief of Branch, in charge of moderation within the Forum. They will all have Global Moderation powers, and some may have additional administrative powers depending upon their duties.

    Senior Moderators are appointed by existing Senior Moderators from among the moderators.


    Junior Staff - TribounosThe Staff Moderators form the front line moderation force on the Forum. They are drawn from the Citizens and appointed and fired by the Senior Moderators.

    The total number of Staff Moderators, along with individual assignments and powers are set by the Senior Moderators.





    Article III. The Content BranchThe Content Branch oversees content produced on the main page of the site and the work of the official publications of the Site. The Chief of Branch shall have general organizational and administrative control of all content areas of the site

    Senior Staff - EditorsEach official publication shall have an Editor appointed by the Chief of Branch. Editors must be Citizens of the Forum. They shall have overall responsibility for running their publication and ensuring that content produced for their publication does not breach the Terms of Service.


    Junior StaffJunior Staff of the Content Branch are contributors and writers of the various publications and articles on the front page. They may be drawn from any rank, and are hired and fired by the Editor of the publication for which they contribute.



    Article IV. The Technical BranchThe Technical Branch deals with the infrastructure of the site. They handle all administrative issues, maintain the forum software and ensure the security and reasonable running of the site overall.

    Chief TechnicianThe Chief of Branch has overall control of all staff within this department. He decides the appropriate access levels for all Staff of this branch and makes final decisions on issues relating to software. A principle concern of the Chief Technician is the security of the site, and as such, has the right to remove administration and moderation privileges from any member, though it is expected he will consult with the other Hexagon members when doing so.


    Technical StaffThese Technical Staff aid the Chief of branch in the maintenance and secure running of the site. They are hired and fired by the Chief of Branch and have levels of administrative access dependent upon the jobs detailed to them.



    Article V. Staff AwardsAll Staff are awarded a medal appropriate to the branch they have served in, in accordance with Section 5 of this document, if time served in Staff equals or exceeds 12 weeks.

    The awarding of these medals is honorary and accords no additional rights or privileges. They are the gift of the Hexagon Council to retiring Staff and may not be removed by the Curia.

    The awarding of these ranks and awards to Staff who are removed from their position following a vote of No Confidence, or are otherwise fired is at the discretion of the Hexagon Council provided the 12 week service provision is also met.


    Article VI. Hexagon Council VetoAny Hexagon member can veto any act or decision on TWC. However this veto is considered provisional until approved by a majority of Hexagon members. This approval should be obtained as soon as possible.


    Section I - The ExecutiveThe Executive consists of the site staff members, who are divided into the Hexagon Council and general staff. Staff has its own procedures independent of the Curia, which are documented on a wiki page.

    Article I. The Hexagon CouncilThe Hexagon Council is a self-appointed body of administrators with final control over all aspects of the site. The Hexagon Council may veto any bill passed by the Curia, and is in charge of general staff. It is the only part of staff responsible for dealing with the Curia.

    Article II. General StaffGeneral staff (staff members outside the Hexagon Council) are given certain rights and duties on TWC beyond normal members. They currently fall into three categories: moderation, content, and technical. Only Citizens may become moderators. General staff have no rights in the Curia beyond other members of the site.
    Support? Oppose? Anyone want to help flesh out the wiki page?
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    Default Re: Amendment - Removal of Section I - Article II

    since i'm wiki staff i guess i'll have a look at it later...

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    Default Re: Amendment - Removal of Section I - Article II

    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical View Post
    I like "General Staff". "Branch Staff" makes it sound like Hex can't be part of branches (I'm not tech staff?), and "Operational Staff" doesn't seem to make much sense. "General Staff" is suitably vague-sounding that we can make up a meaning for it. So, also taking the opportunity to make it more succinct:

    Section I - The ExecutiveThe Executive consists of the site staff members, who are divided into the Hexagon Council and general staff. Staff has its own procedures independent of the Curia, which are documented on a wiki page.

    Article I. The Hexagon CouncilThe Hexagon Council is a self-appointed body of administrators with final control over all aspects of the site. The Hexagon Council may veto any bill passed by the Curia, and is in charge of general staff. It is the only part of staff responsible for dealing with the Curia.

    Article II. General StaffGeneral staff (staff members outside the Hexagon Council) are given certain rights and duties on TWC beyond normal members. They currently fall into three categories: moderation, content, and technical. Only Citizens may become moderators. General staff have no rights in the Curia beyond other members of the site.
    I like this its concise.

    While reviewing the section of the constitution dealing with Executive branch members I started wondering if it woudnt be better to frame this part of the constitution that is more a explanation for staff structures, with the proviso that these elements are beyond legislative reach.

    So, that would be all of the preamble and Section I, except move the staff medals material out into the general awards area.

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    Default Re: Amendment - Removal of Section I - Article II

    It's not a good idea to specify it here at all. Too hard to change, so it will grow outdated. A wiki page is more suitable.
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    Non - Administrative Staff

    just a suggestion or -

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    Default Re: Amendment - Removal of Section I - Article II

    Support Simetrical's version.

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    Default Re: Amendment - Removal of Section I - Article II

    Okay, I think I need two more supporters for my latest version?
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    Default Re: Amendment - Removal of Section I - Article II

    Are there really not two more people willing to support this? Or even discuss it?
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    I support Sim's version as well. If a new thread is necessary and this can't be split, I'll re-issue my support there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus Lucifer View Post
    I support Sim's version as well. If a new thread is necessary and this can't be split, I'll re-issue my support there.
    Likewise.

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    Well no matter what I do it'll still be wrong so I'll put your bill up shortly Sim since your argument is rational.

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    Okay, this has been moved to it's own thread. Please add what is to be removed from the TWCC for the sake of continuity and tradition and name your three supporters.
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    I also support Simetrical's version. What I suggest you do, Nicholas, is replace the OP with Sim's version adding him in along with you as the proposers and then whoever has expressed their support

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    Default Re: {ABANDONED}Amendment - Removal of Section I - Article II

    Okay, my proposal from post 10 has enough support, so I'd like to request that it be moved to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical View Post
    Okay, my proposal from post 10 has enough support, so I'd like to request that it be moved to vote.
    I'm sorry Sim, according to the TWCC I cannot move this as you're not the "sole proposer". A new thread is required.

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    Default Re: {ABANDONED}Amendment - Section I - Article II Modifications

    I don't see anything there that says you can't have two proposals in the same thread. Nicholas is the sole proposer of his bill, and I'm the sole proposer of mine. Everything seems legit. You could split all the posts related to my proposal into a separate thread if you want them separate.
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    Default Re: [Amendment] - Section I - Article II Modifications

    Thank you. Søren, Major Darling, and Jom were the first three to support, so I guess they're the supporters. What's the "TWCC"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical View Post
    Thank you. Søren, Major Darling, and Jom were the first three to support, so I guess they're the supporters. What's the "TWCC"?
    Sorry about that. I abbreviate it because Total War Centre Constitution is such a long-winded phrase to have to type out as often as I have to refer to it. Each bill requires its own thread as documented in the TWCC in addition to the three supporters, and the changes to the TWCC (the amendments in other words) need to be documented in the OP I believe. I'm really not sure if I have the granted powers to split threads in order to make two separate proposals, but since it does specify that there must be one proposer per thread ( not proposal) then I guess this, but default gives me that privilege.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] - Section I - Article II Modifications

    So basically just add the entire current text in del tags and the proposed text in ins tags I believe is what we're after..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus Lucifer View Post
    So basically just add the entire current text in del tags and the proposed text in ins tags I believe is what we're after..
    Yes please. I would do it myself but I fear that's outside of my remit as curator. I'm trying to do things by the book, tedious as they may be.

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