Do you think there will be a war between the USA and Iran in the forseeable future?

[removeduser_4536284751384]

I don't see how the USA can drag NATO into it if there is a war. Of course I don't know how they did it in Iraq.

I vote no, in fact I think it's extremely unlikely, but there seems to be a lot of people saying there will be across the board.

[Caliph]

I say yes. The US already made great success in getting the global community to turn against Iran which could be a natural precursor to war. Who would've though they'd get Russia & China on board for tougher sanctions.

That being said, I don't think the US would go about it the way they did in Iraq. It would be a 'cleaner' war, and they will be certain to target the regime, and not the people - making it seem like an Iranian revolution of sorts with US military 'help'.

[Hattushilish]

It depends on what you mean by "forseeable future." I'd say no at the moment, but who knows 40 years from now?

[removeduser_4536284751384]

It depends on what you mean by "forseeable future." I'd say no at the moment, but who knows 40 years from now?

forseeable future is just that - the future we can possibly predict.

if you have know way of knowing then it's not forseeable, is it?

[Noble Savage]

Moved to the Academy.

[garudamon11]

I voted no cause i dont want to see such a war .... america will use its dirty ways to win like caliph said which will be a dishonourable and a sad act from america

[PhilipO'Hayda]

There already loseing there little war with afghanistan, how are they going to win a big war with Iran. if the US goes to war with Iran you can bet Britain will pull out.

[Banana Jelly]

There already loseing there little war with afghanistan, how are they going to win a big war with Iran. if the US goes to war with Iran you can bet Britain will pull out.

Along with Turkey.

[PhilipO'Hayda]

Along with Turkey.

isit Turkey with Iran?

[Banana Jelly]

isit Turkey with Iran?

Lol no. Turkey will just pull out. They cant help USA when America cant show that they can win Afghanistan.

Oops, America, Turkey and Iran. More problems.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...JNncgD9GIR8780

[removeduser_4536284751384]

There already loseing there little war with afghanistan, how are they going to win a big war with Iran. if the US goes to war with Iran you can bet Britain will pull out.

Iran would be like Iraq only with a better and larger army, and most likely with US allies not getting invovled.

Afghanistan is incomparable to either of them.

isit Turkey with Iran?

er lol Turkey is the second largest member of NATO

[Caelifer_1991]

I would say it's... not unlikely. This is a question of geopolitics, and the US's decision is to directly prevent Iranian influence in the region at the expense of it's own, or to allow that to happen whilst having forces at all borders of Iran, and at sea just beyond it's territorial waters ready to prevent it. Refer to my post in the other similar thread for further explanation. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=369076

[glitch]

I hope young Americans (and possibly Europeans) don't mind getting drafted, because a war with Iran will inevitably lead to a draft. Think Vietnam 2.0 Worse off, you'd help unify a highly disunited people

[removeduser_4536284751384]

I hope young Americans (and possibly Europeans) don't mind getting drafted, because a war with Iran will inevitably lead to a draft. Think Vietnam 2.0 Worse off, you'd help unify a highly disunited people

Why would NATO ever get involved?

If they didn't get involved when Britain was openly attacked by another country, which they would have to if Britain requested it, why would they get involved when the USA decides to attack a very militarily powerful country?

And no it won't lead to the draft. The draft won't be used unless there's another Hitler.

Vietnam would be nothing like Iran. Vietnam and Afghanistan were wars against guerillas with the support of the people. Iraq was a war against a country with a convetional army. They lost. Iran is more powerful, but it's a convetional war.

[glitch]

@Irelanddeb

.And no it won't lead to the draft. The draft won't be used unless there's another Hitler...

There was a draft during Vietnam WITHOUT a Hitler. According to Robert Baer's(former CIA field agent) book, Iran can put a million men into uniform, don't expect American air superiority to be able to do the job alone. It's boots on the ground that these wars require (hence the surge in Iraq).

.Vietnam would be nothing like Iran. Vietnam and Afghanistan were wars against guerillas with the support of the people. Iraq was a war against a country with a convetional army. They lost. Iran is more powerful, but it's a convetional war.

The North Vietnamies Army did their share of fighting as well. They were the ones that swarmed in on South Vietnam when America left. And while the Iraq army may be destroyed, the war isn't over. Iran isn't going to try and stand toe-to-toe with America, they'll try to suck America into a guerrilla war as much as possible.

[Georgy Zhukov]

@Irelanddeb

There was a draft during Vietnam WITHOUT a Hitler. According to Robert Baer's(former CIA field agent) book, Iran can put a million men into uniform, don't expect American air superiority to be able to do the job alone. It's boots on the ground that these wars require (hence the surge in Iraq).

America is extremely good at fighting conventional wars, if Iran does put a million boots on the ground the American Airforce will likely destroy all of their supporting infrastructure letting them wither on the vine before the invasion force mops them up. Not to mention United States infiltration to raise disgruntled ethnic groups into effective paramilitaries. Plus the quality of the American Forces and the fact that Iran will receive no arms from Russia and China will make it quick work.

But you may be right about the aftermath of any hypothetical invasion. But for a supposed conventional war the united states has more then enough in its current resources.


This is what the United states fased in IRaq
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_in...litary_aspects
The number of personnel in the Iraqi military prior to the war was uncertain, but it was believed to have been poorly equipped.[107][108][109] The International Institute for Strategic Studies estimated the Iraqi armed forces to number 538,000 (Iraqi Army 375,000, Iraqi Navy 2,000, Iraqi Air Force 20,000 and air defense 17,000), the paramilitary Fedayeen Saddam 44,000, Republican Guard 80,000 and reserves 650,000.[110] Another estimate numbers the army and Republican Guard at between 280,000 to 350,000 and 50,000 to 80,000, respectively,[111] and the paramilitary between 20,000 and 40,000.[112] There were an estimated thirteen infantry divisions, ten mechanized and armored divisions, as well as some special forces units. The Iraqi Air Force and Iraqi Navy played a negligible role in the conflict.
During the invasion, Iraqi forces, along with foreign volunteers from Syria, traveled to Iraq and took part in the fighting, usually under the command of the Saddam Fedayeen. It is not known for certain how many foreign fighters fought in Iraq in 2003, however, intelligence officers of the U.S. First Marine Division estimated that 50% of all Iraqi combatants in central Iraq were foreigners.[113][114]
In addition, the terrorist group Ansar al-Islam controlled a small section of northern Iraq in an area outside of Saddam Hussein's control. Ansar al-Islam had been fighting against Kurdish forces since 2001. At the time of the invasion they fielded approximately 600 to 800 fighters.[115] Ansar al-Islam was led by the Jordanian-born militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who would later become an important leader in the Iraqi insurgency. Ansar al-Islam was driven out of Iraq in late March by a joint American-Kurdish force during Operation Viking Hammer.

And most of those forces were either destroyed or routed in three weeks.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

@Irelanddeb

There was a draft during Vietnam WITHOUT a Hitler. According to Robert Baer's(former CIA field agent) book, Iran can put a million men into uniform, don't expect American air superiority to be able to do the job alone. It's boots on the ground that these wars require (hence the surge in Iraq).

and my reason for believing the draft will never be used again are because practically every politician said it should never be used against after vietnam, unless there's WWIII.

It doesn't matter if they can put a million infantry soldiers against an invasion, blitzkrieg will defeat them easily. In Iraq the USAF hardly attacked enemy troops at all until the last stages of the air war. Before that they were busy completely decapitating their militaryand civilian leadership, and destroying completely all Iraqi infrastructure. The Basra power station was bombed 13 times.

[PhilipO'Hayda]

I hope young Americans (and possibly Europeans) don't mind getting drafted, because a war with Iran will inevitably lead to a draft. Think Vietnam 2.0 Worse off, you'd help unify a highly disunited people

thank god Republic of Ireland isit in the NATO.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

thank god Republic of Ireland isit in the NATO.

thank God for Micheal Collins or we actually would be

[PhilipO'Hayda]

thank God for Micheal Collins or we actually would be

A! if he had lived longer, all of this wouldit be going on.