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    Immigrants behind most cases of aggravated sexual assault


    The Oslo Police have over the past three years investigated 41 cases of aggravated sexual assault, which resulted in rape. All of them were carried out by non-western immigrants to Norway.

    The police now urge that more efforts be put into preventive measures among men with immigrant background.
    The police have investigated all reported cases of aggravated sexual assault over the past three years, and have gained a clear imprssion of the offenders:
    Most of the rapists have a Kurdish or African background, NRK reports. The cases of aggravated sexual assults all have one thing in common, namely the use of gross violence.
    (NRK)
    Multi culturalism does not work. Period.
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    Default Re: Immigrants behind most cases of aggravated sexual assault

    Yes and this article proves it

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    Sooooooooooooooooource

    Stormfront is on page #1 when Googling this. That usually is a sign of a made up article.

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    I do the wrong, and first begin to brawl.
    The secret mischiefs that I set abroach

    I lay unto the grievous charge of others.


    And thus I clothe my naked villainy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Sooooooooooooooooource

    Stormfront is on page #1 when Googling this. That usually is a sign of a made up article.
    Not a made up article. The source is the Oslo police.

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    http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.6944861

    In this version 65% of those charged with rape were from a "non-western" background (the third-world is never mentioned). Although this is still very high, especially compared to the proportion of non-westerners who make up the population of Oslo, it is very far from Amagi's clearly false 100% statistic.
    Different years have different statistics. The 100% stat is from 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Stormfront is on page #1 when Googling this. That usually is a sign of a made up article.
    Just because some white nationalists discuss a story on immigrants anyone who agrees with them are racist?

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    The BNP reckon that the report comes from some Norwegian Radio station. Haven't found out what yet.

    Amagi, that's not a source. That's just a paper reporting on another report. I want the source for the first report - the police statement it refers to would be ideal.

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    Is that all the hasbara department can come up with? An allution at the BNP?
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    I wonder how norway DARES to even allude to the precious foreign culture enrichers.
    Shame on them.
    Last edited by Amagi; June 26, 2010 at 09:09 AM.
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    And thus I clothe my naked villainy

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    And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."

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    I just cant figure out your agenda. In one topic you say Hitler was cool with all races yet in this one you say multiculturism doesnt work. Are you a liberal or right wing? Or are you simply drawn to conspracy theories and reports that are out of the norm?


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    1) I do not believe in the right wing/ left wing schism
    2) My stance on Hitler is, that he didnt attempt to exterminate other races, but had a very clearly expressed separationist stance.
    3) I do not believe that multicultural societies work. The USA is the best example for a failed nation state that never ever could deal with itīs heterogenity, and never will- because itīs simply impossible.
    Last edited by Amagi; June 26, 2010 at 08:54 AM.
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    The secret mischiefs that I set abroach

    I lay unto the grievous charge of others.


    And thus I clothe my naked villainy

    With odd old ends, stol'n out of holy writ;

    And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."

    Shakespeareīs "Richard III"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    1) I do not believe in the right wing/ left wing schism
    2) My stance on Hitler is, that he didnt attempt to exterminate other races, but had a very clearly expressed separationist stance.
    3) I do not believe that multicultural societies work. The USA is the best example for a failed nation state that never ever could deal with itīs heterogenity, and never will- because itīs simply impossible.
    The USA is a perfect example of individual rights turning "ethnicity" into a non-issue (with flaws, since individual rights were never FULLY recognized).

    However, once individual rights whither away the various groups of society fight one another.

    Such is the result of this mongrel "mixed system" the world has largely accepted as the norm.

    Possibly then, liberty of association? (But, according to socialist doctrine, true liberty and voluntary association are in contradiction to each other, and the purpose of the socialists is to suppress liberty of association precisely in order to force people to associate together in true liberty.). - Frederic Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    1) I do not believe in the right wing/ left wing schism
    2) My stance on Hitler is, that he didnt attempt to exterminate other races, but had a very clearly expressed separationist stance.
    3) I do not believe that multicultural societies work. The USA is the best example for a failed nation state that never ever could deal with itīs heterogenity, and never will- because itīs simply impossible.
    2-Holocaust Denier

    3- Denies reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanx300 View Post
    Seeing incredible money waste into integration = Multi-Culturism doesn't work.

    Wouldn't have to spend a bean if bigoted :wub:s would just leave the brown people alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    3) I do not believe that multicultural societies work. The USA is the best example for a failed nation state that never ever could deal with itīs heterogenity, and never will- because itīs simply impossible.
    I'm sorry, but did you just say that the US is a failed state?
    When exactly do you live in, 1861?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    2) My stance on Hitler is, that he didnt attempt to exterminate other races, but had a very clearly expressed separationist stance.
    Than why did Germans kill 12,254,000 to 14,154,000 Russian civilians, 2,380,000 to 2,580,000 Polish civilians and 5,752,400 Jews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    For one thing, multiculturalism does work, it's the people in society that don't (regardless of their standing as immigrants, or not).

    I'm not sure where you're from (I'm going to say Britain) but your country started out as a multicultural nation state. Sure the Anglo's and Saxons and the third party (I think Briton's) were of the same culture, northern France, but after they invaded the island you call the U.K / Great Britain, they joined cultures with the Celtics. I would call that multiculturalism since they both had different ethnic backgrounds (which makes up the definition of multiculturalism).

    If not for multiculturalism, you wouldn't be enjoying half the things you use/do daily since 60% (random number) of anything you do is related to a different culture. Such as the Internet. Created by the USA which is a different culture than Europe just because the USA has a lot of different cultures.

    And just to say another thing, I would say the EU is doing a darn good being a multicultural society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    Is that all the hasbara department can come up with? An allution at the BNP?
    Amagi, I am taking you at face value and assuming you have come on to a debating forum to actually debate. It would be much easier to dismiss you for a feckless, stupid, boring nazi, but I am not doing that - I am investigating your claims. I am trying to find out where they came from. I am trying to find out what data it is using. I am trying to find out if it is true.

    The BNP version of events says 41 rapes in three years in Oslo. Really? That few? This is supicious stuff, Amagi, and you need to provide a source.

    I've found yet another version of the report:

    http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...icle190268.ece

    In this version 65% of those charged with rape were from a "non-western" background (the third-world is never mentioned). Although this is still very high, especially compared to the proportion of non-westerners who make up the population of Oslo, it is very far from Amagi's clearly false 100% statistic.

    Interestingly 9/10 of rape accusations never result in prosecution due to lack of evidence... what proportion of these accused are "non-western"?
    Last edited by Nikos; June 26, 2010 at 09:11 AM.

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    Letīs take your 65 % figure then. Multi culturalism doesnt work.

    And please keep in mind:
    While 65 percent of those charged with rape are classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes up only 14.3 percent of Oslo's population.
    Despite they makeup a mere 14% of the population, they produce at least 65% of the rape incidents. Thereīs somethign wrong.
    How shall we handle this Ferrets? Additional anti- rape classes for immigrants besides the language lessons?
    Last edited by Amagi; June 26, 2010 at 09:05 AM.
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    The secret mischiefs that I set abroach

    I lay unto the grievous charge of others.


    And thus I clothe my naked villainy

    With odd old ends, stol'n out of holy writ;

    And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."

    Shakespeareīs "Richard III"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    Letīs take your 65 % figure then. Multi culturalism doesnt work.

    And please keep in mind:


    Despite they makeup a mere 14% of the population, they produce at least 65% of the rape incidents. Thereīs somethign wrong.
    How shall we handle this Ferrets? Additional anti- rape classes for immigrants besides the language lessons?
    The thing is that this data isn't very useful Amagi. This is because a) it's the first study of its kind, so we have nothing to compare it to. We have no idea whether or not the figures are typical. And b) we do not know what the ethnic grouping of the 9/10 accused rapists who were not prosecuted due to lack of evidence.

    Without knowing this we do not know whether the data tells us that a) non-westerners are behind a disproportionate amount of the rapes in Oslo or b) Oslo police have a race bias when putting forward prosecutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    Letīs take your 65 % figure then. Multi culturalism doesnt work.

    And please keep in mind:


    Despite they makeup a mere 14% of the population, they produce at least 65% of the rape incidents. Thereīs somethign wrong.
    How shall we handle this Ferrets? Additional anti- rape classes for immigrants besides the language lessons?

    I make that about 27 incidents. I would hazard a guess and suggest that as percentage of overall crime, it would be relatively small.


    I take it that there are far more than 27 non-western migrants in Oslo, how are they connected with these crimes?

    Likewise can we presume that female migrants are hardly likely to be accountable for this.
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    If I come from Sudan, why should I be persecuted because someone from Ethiopia raped someone? Your suggestion is ridiculous Amagi. And it has nothing to do with multiculturalism. Immigrants assimilate pretty well.

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