Actually all the bosnian kings mention only Bosnians in Bosnia during the middle ages. They use the old term "Bosnjanin" or Dobri Bosnjanin (noble bosnjanin) And when they talk about serbs and Croats they talk about them as another nation:"The Croats and we Bosnians" or "And Hrvoje Vukicic Hrvatinic came to me with his Croats and about this noble Bosnians can testify."
So I think you are missing the point about but I will not see it as an insult because I think that you do not mean it bad; you just don't know.
Let's just not go off topic! The topic is about the church!
kada se bjehmo svadili, tada nas Stjepan Rajkovic umiri i da nam nas grad Bobovac, a neda ga dati Ugrom.
"And when we were in a quarrel between each other; Stijepan Rajkovic calmed us down. And we entrusted our capital of Bobovac to him after which he defended it against the Hungarians (King Tvrtko I Kotromanic 1366.)"
ok, no more offtopic. anyways, i'm still for the simple stone buildings, but there's no any evidence.
i'm more interesting in symbols, did the use cross? as far as i know, and read, they didn't, because they hated to pray to the cross on which was Jesus Christ crucified. it was "satanic" from their side of faith.
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I don't know. I know that the Pope Inocencije wrote:
"And may the Bosnian Djed bi doomed together with all the kscani who are refusing to pray towards the holy cross and the holy simbols."
So from this sentence we can conclude that they did not. But more research is needed I think. I can do some research in the holidays.
kada se bjehmo svadili, tada nas Stjepan Rajkovic umiri i da nam nas grad Bobovac, a neda ga dati Ugrom.
"And when we were in a quarrel between each other; Stijepan Rajkovic calmed us down. And we entrusted our capital of Bobovac to him after which he defended it against the Hungarians (King Tvrtko I Kotromanic 1366.)"
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haha, i've found swastika
anyways, all motives from stecci. there are swastikas, crosses, greek crosses (like +)
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The Bogimils, a Christian Church, were expelled from Serbia by the Nemanjić, so they settled and populated Bosnia, founding a unique Bosnian Church that spread and gained popularity during under Kulin's reign. The Dalmatian King of Zeta or Doclea Vukan Nemanjić reported the Ban to the Pope on January 8, 1199 for heresy, threatening retribution. It appears that Kulin Ban and his wife, as well as his sister - the widow of Prince Miroslav - abandoned Roman Catholicism in favor of Bogumilism together with ten thousand of their Christian subjects. Kulin also gave protection to the banished heretics from Split and Trogir - which Vukan reported to the Pope. The Pope wrote to King Emeric of Hungary to make Kulin prosecute the Bogumils or depose him.
So before the kristjani were Bogumils.
@Bosnian_King
"Bosona" (Βοσωνα)-Bosnia(is described as "a župa of Serbia" (χοριον) under that name begins is mention of the 958(as a region)....Bosna was controled Serbian and Croatian principality,before nine centuries and Bosnian (regional ) name!!
Does this mean that the Serbs and Croats become Bosnjaci?
Last edited by Baron Vlad Felix; June 25, 2010 at 01:51 PM.
this is very logical.
well kings had at least pretend to be catholic (we can't say what was their personal opinion - well except for last 2 which were strict Catholics). If king was officially declared as "Krstjan" it would mean serous problems with the Pope and rest of Catholic Europe and would result in crusade. So it was a necessity.
And since kings were "officially Catholic" they had to have a place to pray - a chapel. every castle in christian Europe has one. so this was also a necessity. but if king was personally a convinced "Krstjan" then he did not spend much time there.
anyway compare Bosnia to Serbia or Croatia. in Croatia and Serbia there are much more remains of medieval churches...
clearly building big and representative churches was not a priority for "Krstjans". of course they had a place to pray, but not big representative buildings.
or am i wrong ? find me some archeological evidence of big churches in Bosnia. or monasteries (not Catholic or Orthodox) ?
of course that if from "Handjar" division
ing stop already... We have one truth, and he has the other one... We will never think like him, and he will never think like us and that is why we should stop arquing
anyways, i still suggest any of these symbols from stecci
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kada se bjehmo svadili, tada nas Stjepan Rajkovic umiri i da nam nas grad Bobovac, a neda ga dati Ugrom.
"And when we were in a quarrel between each other; Stijepan Rajkovic calmed us down. And we entrusted our capital of Bobovac to him after which he defended it against the Hungarians (King Tvrtko I Kotromanic 1366.)"
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kada se bjehmo svadili, tada nas Stjepan Rajkovic umiri i da nam nas grad Bobovac, a neda ga dati Ugrom.
"And when we were in a quarrel between each other; Stijepan Rajkovic calmed us down. And we entrusted our capital of Bobovac to him after which he defended it against the Hungarians (King Tvrtko I Kotromanic 1366.)"