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    George Bush left his problems at home yesterday only to find himself flying into a whole new world of hurt at the Summit of Americas in Argentina, where tens of thousands of protesters, led by the football star and broadcaster Diego Maradona, were due to greet the president in a "say no to Bush" march.

    The president can expect an equally unfriendly welcome from some of the leaders and top officials attending the summit in the seaside town of Mar del Plata. Among those he can expect to come face to face with is Hugo Chavez, the outspoken president of Venezuela who has accused the Bush administration of attempting to orchestrate a coup against him and last week said the US was planning to invade his country.

    Around 10,000 police and security agents have erected a ring of steel around the town, while Argentinian navy vessels have been positioned off the coast. Most commercial flights are due to be suspended once the 34-nation summit begins. But with so many protesters in the area, there are fears that trouble could break out.

    Last weekend small bombs were thrown at several American bank branches and chain store branches. Maradona has urged viewers of his popular television show to join him in a protest outside the meeting. Argentina's "piquetero" movement - made up of protesters known for blocking roads and confronting authorities - has promised to descend on the resort in force.

    Cuba, the only country in the hemisphere not invited to the summit hosted by the Organisation of American States, will be attending a People's Summit in Mar del Plata set up by leftwing groups to counter the official version. Family members of fallen US soldiers in Iraq as well as Iraqi civilians who have suffered at the hands of US troops will also be there.

    Mr Chavez, an important ally of Cuba's president Fidel Castro, is due to visit the People's Summit today and give a speech at a basketball stadium timed to coincide with the start of the Summit of Americas. Before flying there he said Venezuela would object to any attempt by the US to revive proposals for the creation of Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA), which would overtake the European Union as the world's largest tariff-free zone.

    Mr Bush has been a forceful proponent of the idea, but talks have repeatedly stalled, with opponents fearful it would allow corporations to dominate the poor.

    "They aren't going to revive it, even if they produce a 10,000 page document," Mr Chavez told the Caracas-based TV channel Telesur.

    "Latin America remains the region of most inequalities in the world," Cuban foreign minister Felipe Perez Roque told the Associated Press. "The FTAA is just more of the same neo-liberal policies."

    Yesterday government officials at the summit site were still bickering over whether the event's final declaration would include crucial language on when high-level FTAA talks might resume. Victor Hugo Varsky, an Argentinian representative, said negotiators were advancing very slowly. "Some countries don't want any mention," he told AP. "Others want to progress towards a trade accord."
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    well....is there any future in this agreement? (the creation of Free Trade Area of the Americas)
    and what will the talks achive?

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    no suprise here. lol, anyway, chavez is a crackup. he is always claming that the US is going to invade Venezuela.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trey
    no suprise here. lol, anyway, chavez is a crackup. he is always claming that the US is going to invade Venezuela.
    chavez is a quite an ass really.
    Venezuela would be so much beter off without him, though a milltary coop was hardly much better.

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    I'm glad to see the world turning against Bush, things really aren't going well for him recently and I'm happy about that. I remember back to a much publicized incident involving Vice Prez Dick Cheney when he flew down to New Orleans. Some guy walking by stopped and during Dick's interview says "F%$& you Mr. Cheney". Hahaha, oh man it was a glorious day for us anti-Bush people. I'm glad that things are going bad for Bush and his people and he longer has time on his hands to clear brush or rope cattle or whatever the hell it is he does on his ranch for weeks at a time...but this sounds like people are rising up in violent revolt and people, Americans and non-Americans alike, are getting hurt. I know the article mentioned explosives of some kind...I hope the people of latin America aren't taking out their frustration on Americans because of Bush and his f$%& ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RZZZA
    I'm glad to see the world turning against Bush, things really aren't going well for him recently and I'm happy about that. I remember back to a much publicized incident involving Vice Prez Dick Cheney when he flew down to New Orleans. Some guy walking by stopped and during Dick's interview says "F%$& you Mr. Cheney". Hahaha, oh man it was a glorious day for us anti-Bush people. I'm glad that things are going bad for Bush and his people and he longer has time on his hands to clear brush or rope cattle or whatever the hell it is he does on his ranch for weeks at a time...but this sounds like people are rising up in violent revolt and people, Americans and non-Americans alike, are getting hurt. I know the article mentioned explosives of some kind...I hope the people of latin America aren't taking out their frustration on Americans because of Bush and his f$%& ups.
    i like people tunring on bush, i hate him more than anything, but the truth is any american presdient would be exaclty the same as they are all controlled by the wealthy elite (their multi-million dollar campigns arent funded for nothing you know)

    and chavez leading this......doesnt exactly give me a "warm fuzzy feeling"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfootedfred
    chavez is a quite an ass really.
    Venezuela would be so much beter off without him, though a milltary coop was hardly much better.
    How would Venezuela be better off with out him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trey
    no suprise here. lol, anyway, chavez is a crackup. he is always claming that the US is going to invade Venezuela.
    He also plans to ban Halloween from Latin America for being a Yankee imperialist invention...
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    that *******, he should learn.

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    I support Chavez on most issues but I want him to next solve the unemployment problems now that the economy has been stabilized from the unrest from the opposition. Chavez is not an angel but as long as he keeps the corportaions from dominating the poor, I stand behind him, and so does most of South America. Death to the FTAA.

    And dude, we are not going to invade you...just the CIA is going to try to take you out like they did Allende.
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    For a quick update on this situation:

    Yahoo! News link.

    For me, the most interesting part is this:

    A high-ranking Brazilian official, who said he was not authorized to give his name, told reporters 28 of the 34 countries participating in the summit had agreed to relaunch trade talks as early as April.
    Seems that President Bush did a pretty good job down there, assuming the "high ranking official" was correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadBurgerMaker
    For a quick update on this situation:

    Yahoo! News link.

    For me, the most interesting part is this:



    Seems that President Bush did a pretty good job down there, assuming the "high ranking official" was correct.
    The number is getting smaller and smaller, Peru, Ecuador, Mexico, and Bolivia will probably go to the leftists soon.

    I hopet the countries give a referendum on the FTAA, it would fail.
    SecureROM is stupid....

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    I want to start a new thread. "Bigfootfred's Anti-American Bash Fest and Consiracy Theory Psyco-Babbling Forum"

    Sorry, that was name calling. It slipped.
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    IF you know history, you should know that Chavez does not have the wrong idea. How many presidents and movments did America crush and placed dictators because America was afraid to loose thier investments there? I am gald this is happening and I totaly support these ideas. I do not dought that America wants to get Chavez out of the way.

    I was watching the Family guy movie and there was something very funny and true there. One of these south American Coffe bean farmers was like "If coffee costs 5 buck why am i still a peasant?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigran of Sasoun
    I was watching the Family guy movie and there was something very funny and true there. One of these south American Coffe bean farmers was like "If coffee costs 5 buck why am i still a peasant?"
    I saw that too! :laughing:
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    America has done a LOT of bad stuff in latin america...in fact, it seems if you have brown skin and you dont live in America, America has done something bad to you. We have a long history of supporting terrible dictators and terrorist regimes in places like Columbia, where we hypocritically make cocaine the #1 export and then publically denounce Columbia and declare a war on drugs while secretly doing business with the Columbian drug cartels and supporting the drug dealing criminal governments while they oppress their peasant populations and force them to harvest Coca plants or else get their hands chopped off or their entire family murdered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Alameda
    I want to start a new thread. "Bigfootfred's Anti-American Bash Fest and Consiracy Theory Psyco-Babbling Forum"

    Sorry, that was name calling. It slipped.
    how am i bashing athe US here?

    i posted a story on the america's summit....

    how did i "bash" the US exactly?

    and yes that was name calling, and as "civitate" (i.e. a grandous title, that in your case has no meaning) you shouldnt resort to unbacked name calling.

    this thread is not "bashing" the US.
    i beleive many nations are involved in these talks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfootedfred
    how am i bashing athe US here?

    i posted a story on the america's summit....

    how did i "bash" the US exactly?

    and yes that was name calling, and as "civitate" (i.e. a grandous title, that in your case has no meaning) you shouldnt resort to unbacked name calling.

    this thread is not "bashing" the US.
    i beleive many nations are involved in these talks....
    Calm down Sparky. I thought it was pretty clear I was pulling your chain. All of your posts lately seem Anti-US to me...I was starting to see a pattern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Alameda
    Calm down Sparky. I thought it was pretty clear I was pulling your chain. All of your posts lately seem Anti-US to me...I was starting to see a pattern.
    bs.

    you are not worthy of the useless title of "civitate"
    i made no "us bashing" and damn well know it.
    well done.
    your main post on this thread was to attack me, for somthign i havent done.

    Congratuations.
    you're a real addition to the degredation of the "civitate" status

    edit oh yes, and "i saw that too +smilley"
    great posting.
    keep it up.

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    What do Chileans think about US?

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    The real problem is that South America is going communist. Maradona (the ex-soccer player, ex-drug-addict) is trying to change his popularity as a player into political credibility, and use it to support the cause of his friend Castro (who offered him disintoxication from cocaine in Cuban clinics for free).

    Besides the fact that South America is suffering from western capitalist speculations, people like Castro, Chavez and Lula are only going to worsen things. The worst part is that, while the people of South America realize this, they are going to experience years of bad governement, and destabilizing political choices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigran of Sasoun
    IF you know history, you should know that Chavez does not have the wrong idea. How many presidents and movments did America crush and placed dictators because America was afraid to loose thier investments there? I am gald this is happening and I totaly support these ideas. I do not dought that America wants to get Chavez out of the way.

    I was watching the Family guy movie and there was something very funny and true there. One of these south American Coffe bean farmers was like "If coffee costs 5 buck why am i still a peasant?"
    Chavez is a complete nut. I know Venezuelans who have lost very much because of him. He has set up a dictatorship, and done nothing to better things for his poorer countrymen, while doing much to impoverish those who weren't poor. In any case, he is only a danger because he sits on big oil reserves.
    Last edited by Ummon; November 04, 2005 at 03:11 PM.

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