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    Default Could Hawaii work in a Total War mod?

    I got interested in Hawaiian culture and history a while back. And I was wondering 'if Hawaii was in a mod, would it be awesome?' (I have been doing some research on the internet and I have found some interesting stuff, you guys should check it out if you ever get tired of the Romans or whatever for a bit)


    I thought that because Hawaii had its own History of Warfare that ultimately resulted in the Unification of Hawaii under King Kamehameha the Great who established the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1810, It could fit in well in a Total war mod If somebody were to make it. A lot of similarities to Sengoku japan can be made about Ancient Hawaii...

    It was a feudal society, with a warrior class.
    It was the time period that westerners, and Christianity was introduced.
    New Introduced Western weapons like canons and muskets were beginning to be used.
    The ruling faction of Hawaii island (big Island) had fallen apart, leavening smaller often warring petty chiefdoms.

    However, the problem is that Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, and thus any mod that isn't about the Pacific would have to likely stretch the map east or west to include Hawaii. I don't know of any mod projects that has much of the Pacific Ocean.


    Warfare

    Warfare in ancient Hawaii was based on the caste system in place. The commoners fought as pike-men, with long 2 handed spears in formation, and as skirmishers, with slings, stones, and throwing spears. The professional warriors (the Koa) would fight with Hawaiian shark toothed weapons, used as slashing and throwing weapons, stone clubs, daggers and spears.

    They used capes that went over their left arm as a kind of shield, and they practiced a martial art called Lua. The Koa would shave their heads and cover themselves in oil so enemies couldn't grab them easily.

    Criminals, slaves and captured enemies were sacrificed to the war god Kū-ka-ili-moku to ensure continued success on the battlefield.

    When Europeans arrive, the bring cannons and muskets.

    The Islands

    The 8 main Hawaii islands in the late 1700s were all populated and many were united under Aliʻi ʻAimoku (high chiefs)

    Hawaiʻi- The biggest Hawaiian island, once ruled by an Aliʻi ʻAimoku, but has fallen apart into 4 petty chiefdoms. Kona, Kaʻū, Kohala, and Hilo.

    Maui- The Kingdom of Maui was the most powerful Hawaiian realm until it was defeated by Kamehameha of Hawaii (Kona). The Aliʻi ʻAimoku of Maui was also known as the Mōʻī (king). Maui is the 2nd largest island.

    Oʻahu- O'ahu often warred with Molokaʻi and Maui untill it was conquered by Maui and later by Kamehameha.

    Kauaʻi- Realm in the north was at one point merged with the realm of O'ahu, Kamehameha tried to invade twice, both times failed. The Aliʻi ʻAimoku then agreed to become a vessel of Kamehameha to avoid more bloodshed.

    Molokaʻi- Ruled by an Aliʻi ʻAimoku until it was conquered by O'ahu and later Maui and then by Kamehameha.

    Lānaʻi- A small Island that has since ancient times been under the control of Maui, Kamehameha would slaghter a large number of its inhabitants when he invaded.

    Niʻihau- Small island in the north, fragmented rule until one Ali'i unified the island and then married into the ruling family of kaua'i, merging the realms. Surrendered to Kamehameha.

    Kahoʻolawe- Smallest Hawaiian island, small population, apart of the kingdom of Maui.

    http://www.mythichawaii.com/ancient.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamehameha_the_Great
    I love history, I wonder what I will study next?
    So yeah, if you are making a mod (I wish i could) and it takes place in the 1700s and it has part of the pacific in it, see if you can fit in Hawaii If you could and are interested.

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    Default Re: Could Hawaii work in a Total War mod?

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    Default Re: Could Hawaii work in a Total War mod?

    If you can mod, or will learn... Yes its possible.

    I think it would be an interesting mod, and I would certainly play it.

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    yes work already start
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    Default Re: Could Hawaii work in a Total War mod?

    Quote Originally Posted by raubak View Post
    yes work already start
    http://bshine.ru/forum/30-2180-1
    Holy cow, I didn't expect this to actually happen!

    Amazing! This sounds like a good idea, this mod seems small because all the factions share a culture. Buts that's OK, not every mod needs to be EB! This sounds fun.

    Do you know what units and buildings that there are going to be? I have some ideas if you want to hear them.
    Last edited by James the Red; May 04, 2013 at 04:45 PM.

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    Default Re: Could Hawaii work in a Total War mod?

    Quote Originally Posted by James the Red View Post
    Holy cow, I didn't expect this to actually happen!

    Amazing! This sounds like a good idea, this mod seems small because all the factions share a culture. Buts that's OK, not every mod needs to be EB! This sounds fun.

    Do you know what units and buildings that there are going to be? I have some ideas if you want to hear them.
    Well that's convenient.

    American guy proposes mod. Russian guy swoops in and tells everyone he already has one. At least he's not French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swagger View Post
    no
    Well didnt that sound douchy as hell.

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    Default Re: Could Hawaii work in a Total War mod?

    Sounds like a good idea! Only problem I see is that it'd have to be Hawaii only since theres nothing around, and trying to add something else in would be too far away and make hawaii too small. You could just go "ageographical" and shove whatever other land mass you want near by. The Last Kingdom did that with Iceland IIRC, and nobody gives a dang

    But anyway, even if you or a team didnt want to do that, focus solely on Hawaii is alright. Even though all japan mods for M2 failed(I bet CA probably threatened to sue the makers or something...), theres a couple for Rome TW. Both are JUST Japan. No Asia, no European colonialists, just Japan.

    So you could do just Hawaii. Throw in some european colonialists for some different guy battles. I always enjoy fighting a vastly different culture in TW games. Tailor my tactics and stuff

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    I think that Hawaii should have add Empire Of Japan

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    Sounds like it could be pretty cool.
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    Default Re: Could Hawaii work in a Total War mod?

    I think that Hawaii should have all vietnam, japan, korea and america as so will beter for you

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