Moorish Infantry

[Muagan_ra]

Upon playing the Moors for the first time in a while, I've noticed something about their infantry - why is that the Berber Spearmen (who have improved stamina) seem to be better than Nubian Spearmen (who don't even have a bonus against cavalry on their unit cards) - but the Nubians are recruited from a higher tier structure.

Another thing, I noticed after conquering the Saharan provinces - Timtuku and the other whose name escapes me at the moment -that I could retrain the mercenary Sudan Tribesmen. Maybe you can always retrain mercenaries if some are available, but I've never noticed it before! Do the Moors have some special rule about retraining these guys?

Cheers.

(btw: I'm loving these dismounted Christian Guard...)

[Shasqua]

No idea about the first. I guess it was a silly oversight. As for retraining the mercs in Arguin and Timbuktu, you can do that in a region where you can hire those mercs.

[Stolet]

You can almost always retrain Sudanese Tribesmen at Timbuktu cause they spawn very very frequently, and the pool goes up to 6 units available, and you'll rarely buy all 6 of them when you need them to fight rebels, who are also pretty frequent on the road to Timbuktu.

You can indeed retrain every mercenary unit in a city, you just need that mercenary unit to be available in that province. So you can't retrain say Turkomans in Scandinavia, but you can retrain them in Turkey.

Also, it seems a mercenary unit becomes available slowly. Example: if Mercenary Crossbowmen unit has 120 men, you buy them, another unit will become available for recruitment in like 6-7 turns, depending on the replenishment rate. But it replenishes slowly, like 20 men become available in a turn. So, say you have a battle with those Crossbowmen 1 turn after you bought them, and 5 of them die - you will be able to retrain those 5 right away, in a nearby city. But if you lost 100 of them, you'll have to wait some turns until 100 Crossbows become available as mercenaries.

[penquin11]

Upon playing the Moors for the first time in a while, I've noticed something about their infantry - why is that the Berber Spearmen (who have improved stamina) seem to be better than Nubian Spearmen (who don't even have a bonus against cavalry on their unit cards) - but the Nubians are recruited from a higher tier structure.

Another thing, I noticed after conquering the Saharan provinces - Timtuku and the other whose name escapes me at the moment -that I could retrain the mercenary Sudan Tribesmen. Maybe you can always retrain mercenaries if some are available, but I've never noticed it before! Do the Moors have some special rule about retraining these guys?

Cheers.

(btw: I'm loving these dismounted Christian Guard...)

you will also notice with the moors that the Peasant Crossbowmen are better then the Crossbow Militia.

[Turtle Hammer]

I think the tier thing's an oversight personally. Maybe it was tweaked for game balanced and nobody noticed? All in all though, Moorish infantry's good and solid. I love dismounted Christian Guard and Urban Militia.

[RollingWave]

Early Moors roster is pretty tough though, the only thing it really has going for them is the desert archers , it's spearmans are slightly better but not by much, it has no heavy cav at all until later game (unless you count the camels heh) and desert cav is statistically inferior to Jinets (though doesn't really matter since the AI always suck at using missile cavs)

Still, the Moors roster is messed up in a funny way. in vanilla all you really need to do is to jihad against Toledo right from the start and it's really game over. without Toledo the entire Iberian is toast, and if you take Iberia the rest of the world is but a pushover when you get your better units

[k_Apollo]

+ Hashashim (don't know how you write it, really), they kick ass. Too bad there are only 30 of them in a unit.