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    Default Middle East throughout history. 90 seconds.

    The Imperial History of the Middle East in 90 seconds.

    http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html

    For anyone who is interested, but unclear as to how things fit together.


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    Oh! I ve seen this, really cool it's on utube too i guess
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    Default Re: Middle East throughout history. 90 seconds.

    Im sure it is, but I found this on Stumble Upon.


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    Right off the bat it's obvious it was written under a Christian bias, otherwise it's hard to fathom how anyone would list the Kingdom of Israel as an important state and neglect ancient historical powers such as Mitanni, Urartu, or even the Phrygian kingdom, not to mention other states such as the Phoenician city-states and Arabian peninsula polities such as the Minaean Kindgom or Saba. It then proceeds to ignore the Median Empire, Lydia, Alexander's successors, Parthia, Carthage, Aksum and the considerable empires built by Mithridates Eupator and Tigran the Great. Saladin's fame in the West warranted his conquests a mention while the empire carved out by his Zengid predecessors is forgotten. The powerful Iranian Muslim empires of Khwarezm, Ghazni, the Samanids and especially the Safavid dynasty - not to mention Nadir Shah's empire - are all but ignored, and so are the Fatimid and Mamluk dynasties of Egypt, various North African Muslim states such as the Almohad and Almoravid dynasties and the Caliphate of Cordoba; the Ilkhanate, Timur's conquests, and various Turkic rivals of the Ottomans such as the White Sheep Turkmen or the Beylik of Karaman. They also start way too late, skipping the Sumerian city-states, Akkad, the Old Babylonian Kingdom, and Elam. No wonder they didn't even try to include Central Asia. Also, the Sassanids established themselves in power before Constantine was even born, so it makes littles sense to show the Byzantine Empire as existing before the Sassanids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herakleios View Post
    so it makes littles sense to show the Byzantine Empire as existing before the Sassanids.

    it also makes little sense to show justinians empire as the byzantines since they only held those lands for a few years, and im pretty sure they were even in control of most of them completly. Seems like a decent map for middle school i guess.
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    They should have added the Israeli conquests of 67'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoni View Post
    They should have added the Israeli conquests of 67'
    sorry. it didn't last long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MehemtAli_Pasha View Post
    sorry. it didn't last long enough.
    What do you mean?it lasted until now, only the Sinai Peninsula was given to Egypt after 15 years for a peace agreement and it was worth it, they are now doing what Israel and the US tells them.

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    Maps of War is nice, but they're very historically inaccurate. Their spread of democracy map is simply riddled with large faults.
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    Default Re: Middle East throughout history. 90 seconds.

    Oh, I love things like this.

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