Changing rebel tribe names

[phoebusapollon]

could someone please tell me how i can change the names of the rebel tribes that appear when a city rebels?

i would like to insert the names of individual iberian tribes instead of the generic 'iberian rebels' that now appears when a city in iberia rebels (e.g. Illergetes for Osca and so forth) if this is possible

[florin80]

In data(you haven`t said what you`re playing to be more exact) there`s a file descr_rebel_factions. You need to add the revolt there(make sure all units you add for the revolts have slave for ownership in EDU or the game crashes with no message) and then you need to make an entry for the title of the revolt in rebel_faction_descr from data\text. Then you need to designate the revolt to the proper region in descr_regions(data\world\maps\base). In descr_regions the order is this for each entry:

; region tag
;	settlement tag
;	default culture tag
;	rebel faction tag
;	map RGB value
;	comma-seperated resource list
;	triumph point value
;	base farm level

Then you need to remove the map.rwm again and start a new campaign for the changes to take effect. They`re probably not saved games compatible anyway so you might want to wait until you finish your ongoing campaign. And don`t forget to backup any file that you edit or delete, before editing or deleting it.

[phoebusapollon]

thanks for the reply and i apologise for not being more precise -
i only want to change the name of the rebel group that appears but not to modify the type or number of units that appear on rebelling - in the way that when gallic settlements rebel they become 'Pictone Rebels' or 'Aedui Rebels' instead of just plain 'Gaulish Rebels' - its just to add some fun to when individual settlements rebel -

if i only want them to appear as 'Carpetani Rebels' instead of 'Iberian Rebels' will it just be enough to change the rebel faction tag in descr_regions ?

[florin80]

thanks for the reply and i apologise for not being more precise -
i only want to change the name of the rebel group that appears but not to modify the type or number of units that appear on rebelling - in the way that when gallic settlements rebel they become 'Pictone Rebels' or 'Aedui Rebels' instead of just plain 'Gaulish Rebels' - its just to add some fun to when individual settlements rebel -

if i only want them to appear as 'Carpetani Rebels' instead of 'Iberian Rebels' will it just be enough to change the rebel faction tag in descr_regions ?

You just need to edit the external(i.e. the one outside the brackets) revolt name from rebel_faction_descr. For example:

{Caucasians}					Caucasian Rebels

But that only changes the name of a certain revolt. In your case, there will be Carpetani rebels in all the places where there were Iberian rebels previously and that might not be appropriate. If you want to replace the Iberian rebels with more than one revolt name(for example giving a specific name to each region) you`ll have to make more revolts as I`ve described above.

[phoebusapollon]

ah ok i think i get the picture -
thanks i will try it out

[phoebusapollon]

figured out how to add the revolt in descr_rebel_factions but my data/text folder does not contain a document rebel_faction_descr
i m playing a mod switch version - so would it be in a different folder in this version?

[Caligula Caesar]

You also have to add the name (I'll assume Ilergetes) you put in descr_regions in rebel_factions_descr in data/text ({Ilergetes} Ilergete Rebels - or if you want to be adventurous, "Chiefdom of the Ilergetes") and then copy a relevant entry in descr_rebel_factions and change the two lines where it says what rebel it is to "Ilergetes"

[phoebusapollon]

sorry i m playing RTRVI Platinum Mod Switch and the MNM modification

[Caligula Caesar]

I don't think the RTR6 guys made new rebel factions, so I suppose it'll be found in the vanilla text folder.

Edit: Exactly

No, the units which have slave ownership in data/export_desr_unit (or EDU). In RTR6, when possible, use the units that end in "custom", as IIRC they have different stats to boost the rebels.

[phoebusapollon]

awesome!
thanks looks like all the aor units have slave ownership (just wasnt sure what EDU meant lol )

is this also where i can change the hit points of units? those hypaspistai really piss me off with their two hit points

[phoebusapollon]

didnt work - osca is still coming out as iberian rebels when they revolt instead of ilergete although i made all those changes -

[florin80]

First of all you need to remove the map.rwm and restart your campaign for the changes to take effect. As I`ve said. Secondly, if you have the mod switch version the files you need to edit are those in the mod subfolder. In RTRPE`s case that means:
Rome - Total War\RTRPE\data....
the files in Rome - Total War\data... are those of the vanilla game.

[phoebusapollon]

ah but thats what i was saying in the earlier post - the folder data/text in my RTRPE does not have a rebel_faction_descr file in it -

i tried it with changing the file in the RTW program instead but it still didnt work although i had started a new campaign

[florin80]

Did you change the descr_regions file too? Also, do you happen to have vista or windows 7 and the game installed in the default protected location? If it`s not the latter then you`re clearly not editing something properly.

[Caligula Caesar]

Copy the rebel_factions_descr file from Vanilla into the MNM one, if you want it there (edit the MNM files for that, and RTRPE ones for that - they are seperate)

[phoebusapollon]

yes i did copy and modify the descr_regions file as well for the relevant settlement (Osca)
i use windows vista and the game is saved in the location that the install automatically puts it into -

will copying the rebel_factions_descr into the RTRPE folder make a difference?

[phoebusapollon]

what is the map.rwm and how do i remove it?
sorry i m new to this

[florin80]

i use windows vista and the game is saved in the location that the install automatically puts it into -

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...62#post6391662

what is the map.rwm and how do i remove it?
sorry i m new to this

It should be in either Rome - Total War\RTRPE\date\world\maps\base
or
Rome - Total War\RTRPE\date\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign(or barbarian_invasion if you play it with BI). Removing it means deleting or moving it. It will regenerate next time you start the game.

[phoebusapollon]

hmm couldnt find a map.rwm in my RTRPE but there was one in MNM - however even when i delete it and start a new campaign its still the iberian rebels that keep appearing there even when i change it to a different rebel faction in the descr_region

there are also some map.tga files in the same folder but i take it these files contain the actual map itself and should not be deleted?

[florin80]

hmm couldnt find a map.rwm in my RTRPE but there was one in MNM - however even when i delete it and start a new campaign its still the iberian rebels that keep appearing there even when i change it to a different rebel faction in the descr_region

Are you modding the files from MNM or the ones from RTRPE?

there are also some map.tga files in the same folder but i take it these files contain the actual map itself and should not be deleted?

No, they should not be deleted.