Hotseat campaign?

[Sharzak]

Why isn't this in the mod? It's in almost every other.

[retep219]

Why isn't this in the mod? It's in almost every other.

It is in this mod; it can't be taken out. Just enable it in the bc.cfg.

[Liandro]

You know I've done everything that was suggested by Gigantus and several others to the letter, meaning I copied and pasted the thing over several different computers, it doesn't work, I don't even believe in it, there is no such thing as Hot Seat with BC!

[retep219]

I don't understand. We couldn't take hotseat out of BC 2.02 even if we tried. Just copy and paste this into your bc.cfg, save it, and the game will run in hotseat mode in the same way as every other mod.

[multiplayer]
playable = true

If it still doesn't work, upload your bc.cfg here.

[Liandro]

False, untrue, lies, BC hotseat does not exist.

[wudang_clown]

I think there's a terminological confusion here.

I think that when most of us hear "hotseat" we think just about "multiplayer". And Llandro wants to play hotseat - som to play on one computer with few other people, true?

If it comes to multiplayer - it definitely exists in BC and is used by some fans. If it comes to the hotseat option - I have no knowledge about it.

I also don't think that there was a slightest intention to misinform you, Llandro, so, no, no one lied you here.

[Liandro]

I was sort of joking, I think I finally understand what you all mean, by hotseat, I meant being able to play on the same computer with another person, where I do my turn, then I get up, and they sit down they do their turn. My wife and I play Stainless Steel like that, I've done all that you and Giganticus (sp?) suggested and it never worked to allow any kind of hotseat in that manner I described, I don't know that it exists and my playing around here should not be taken seriously, though I suppose I didn't leave much room to allow for that and instead come off as more belligerent than anything, not my intention, I also apologize for this sorry excuse for a sentence that has become a run-on. Thanks for reading this far.

[wudang_clown]

No problem, I understand that it may be annoying to not be able to play BC-hotseat game due to some problems with configuration. I'd like to help, really, but sincerely - I have no idea how to.

Last hotseat I played was in the mid 90s on Amiga computer, Sensible Soccer, damn, that was a total hit back then. But now I wouldn't even know how to configure it.

[wudang_clown]

Okay, here's what:

I've resolved the mystery of no hotseat in BC. That is because hotseat was enabled in Kingdoms expansion. That's what is stated in my Kingdoms manual: "Oh, what's new since M2TW? A hotseat! Oh!".

Stainless Steel is for Kingdoms, that's why you can play it with friends on the same computer.

In that case, hotseat will be enabled for BC 3.

[retep219]

Okay, here's what:

I've resolved the mystery of no hotseat in BC. That is because hotseat was enabled in Kingdoms expansion. That's what is stated in my Kingdoms manual: "Oh, what's new since M2TW? A hotseat! Oh!".

Stainless Steel is for Kingdoms, that's why you can play it with friends on the same computer.

In that case, hotseat will be enabled for BC 3.

Hotseat is not unique to kingdoms at all. If it was, how could there be so many hotseat games in the BC Multiplayer forum?

If you want to play hotseat, just use the attached bc.cfg. You'll be able to set up a hotseat game in the "Start Campaign" screen.

[wudang_clown]

I think that in the Multiplayer forum those are not Hotseats, actually, but just Multiplayer sessions. People from different parts of the world play a campaign by making moves, saving games and posting save-games on the forum.

When playing Hotseat, you don't need to post a save on a forum, because 2 or more people, one after another, play on one and the same computer.

Also, in M2TW manual, there's nothing said about Hotseat, though there's a Multiplayer chapter. Meanwhile, in the Kingdoms manual it is stated very clearly that Hotseat mode is a new feature of Kingdoms Multiplayer option and is a new feature since M2TW. Thus my conclusion. Plus, of course, few people here with problems of setting that particular type of Multiplayer game.

I'll check it in the other mods forums, though...

[bubbathegump]

Yes hotseat campaign was introduced with the kingdoms expansion, it's not just some random file mod that allows it.

[Quirl]

Actually, Retep is right. I'm hosting a BC 2.02 hotseat over at the .Org right now called Lords of the East. I'm also participating in a BC 1.05 hotseat there called Wrath of the Khan. There are several other BC hotseats (just check the multiplayer section of this thread) and all you really have to do is edit the bc.cfg file like Retep suggested. Then, if you did it right, just load up a single player campaign and you will find you are able to select multiple factions at once.

I only play hotseats now. They're awesome. You should check out the .Org, Liandro. We have a pretty active hotseat community over there.

[wudang_clown]

Um, yes, but do you play with those people on one and the same computer? Like, you know, you meet with friends, seat by the single computer and change after one of you ends his turn? Because that's what "hotseat" means - "hot seat", it's hot, because people change often by the same computer, sitting on one chair (well, that's metaphorical, but you know what I mean).

In other words, there's a misunderstanding, because many think that Multiplayer = Hotseat. But others differentiate between these two. And the latter claim, rightly, that you can't play a Hotseat campaign in BC.

You can play a Multiplayer campaign with Alejandro Sanchez (who lives in Russia) and me (I live in Poland) in the same day, but we can't play a Hotseat campaign.

[Quirl]

No. We are playing a hotseat campaign. We end our turn, which then goes to the next player's screen (whose turn is password locked), and then we send the save file to each other over email or through the forums (we could play on the same computer, if it weren't for being in sepearate countries and all. So, instead, we just send each other the save game files and play off those.)...

... but it IS a hotseat campaign. Trust me, man. I play them all the time.

P.S.
You should come to the .Org, too Wudang! We're always looking for new players!

[wudang_clown]

Well, yes, that's true, in a way.

But:

Hotseat or hot seat is a multiplayer mode provided by some turn-based video games, which allows two or more players to play on the same device by taking turns playing the game. The name hotseat started as a reference to playing a PC game and trading seats with the other player.

Hotseat play allows players to play a multiplayer game with only one copy of the game or only one device. Since hotseat play is usually defined as turn-based by nature, the duration of a game may extend beyond that of a real-time networked multiplayer game. Some games allow hotseat and networked players to compete with each other in the same game, while maintaining turn-based play.

Some do not limit the definition of hotseat multiplayer only to turn-based games, but differentiate between two categories of hotseat games: simultaneous hotseat and turn-based hotseat. In simultaneous hotseat games, two or more people play a game at the same time on the same computer. In turn-based hotseat games players take turns.

By this broader definition, hotseat multiplayer gaming means simply multiple players playing on one machine. This multiplayer mode is also often referred to as offline multiplayer, local multiplayer or same-console multiplayer, though the term same-console multiplayer is generally limited to non-computer consoles. An example of this is two people switching who gets to play every time one player dies.

There were few people, e.g., Llandro, who wanted to play hotseat in above mentioned meaning, but they couldn't, because such hotseat isn't allowed in M2TW, but in Kingdoms (what is confirmed by original game manual). Those people play such hotseat campaigns in other mods, so I assume they know how to set such hotseat. BC isn't for Kingdoms, so they can't play such hotseat in BC.

Edit: Oh, source of the citation.

You should come to the .Org, too Wudang! We're always looking for new players!

Unfortunately, I don't have time for this kind of entertainment.

[Quirl]

With Kingdoms came the 1.3 patch for M2TW. That is actually the thing that enabled hotseats. All you need is the patch, though. You don't really need Kingdoms. Then you just edit the bc.cfg file, go into the single player campaign, and you'll be able to select multiple factions at once.

Trust me, man. I've played in 3 bc hotseats so far.

But perhaps Liandro is just missing that patch? I wouldn't think so, however, if he was playing an SS hotseat. Probably just edited the bc.cfg wrong.

Just download retep's. I double checked it and it's good.

Unfortunately, I don't have time for this kind of entertainment.

Honestly... yeah, me neither. Wish I could stop playing one of them... but I'm hosting it.

[wudang_clown]

With Kingdoms came the 1.3 patch for M2TW. That is actually the thing that enabled hotseats. All you need is the patch, though. You don't really need Kingdoms. Then you just edit the bc.cfg file, go into the single player campaign, and you'll be able to select multiple factions at once.

Trust me, man. I've played in 3 bc hotseats so far.

But perhaps Liandro is just missing that patch? I wouldn't think so, however, if he was playing an SS hotseat. Probably just edited the bc.cfg wrong.

Just download retep's. I double checked it and it's good.

Okay, then, if hotseat is actually used in the Multiplayer forum then... well... it is used in BC...

I guess I went too far in making conclusions about the matter I know very little about. Sorry all for confusion.

I'd only like to say, that it's not possible to play BC without patch 1.03 installed, so if one can launch and play BC without any initial CTD, but has problems with the hotseat, then it's not a matter of missing patch.

Wish I could stop playing one of them...

That's exactly why I don't even want to try.