So Seriously WTF is going on?

[ajtboy]

Most of us have been following the developement of RSII for quite some time now. From the end of 2009 I have checked daily on the forum for the release. I've heard many times that it was "immenent", "any day now", or "last touches" were being put on etc...

All the while the "Beta" version had been given to select few individuals, posting their campaigns, and discussing this MOD...while the rest of us beg for mercy (and the release).

I've defended the developement time in the past, and still do...is it possible we are "splitting hairs" here????...

So what is holding things up at this point? If it is a matter of time for the developement team, perhaps the team can be inlarged in this final stage to get this thing out???

[Delysid]

The sheer arrogance of people amazes me sometimes.

Dude, just chill and be happy in the fact there is going to be a RS2. If your not happy with the speed of its development why not spend the time to learn some modding skills and help out?

[HunterKYA]

The mod's been in development from about this time in 2008. RS2 is still going through beta-testing to work out as many bugs as they can find before release. All good things come to those who wait, so please, be patient.

[Killerbee]

The sheer arrogance of people amazes me sometimes.

Dude, just chill and be happy in the fact there is going to be a RS2. If your not happy with the speed of its development why not spend the time to learn some modding skills and help out?

He has a point though. Lately the RS team seems to be polishing over and over and over .. I think they said last year that it would be released in summer.. then as christmas gift. We're now 10 months away from summer and RS team is still polishing.

Seriously, I admire them and their work is simply stunning. The fact that they want to have a perfect game is a great ideal, but there is a point where you must stop, or you'll just end up polishing even more.

Wouldn't be suprised if some factions would be reskinned in the future frankly

[Visarion]

and when you're so close to release and you know you have an almost perfect game but there are still some flaws that will ruin gameplay you want to make it better instead of patching and repatching... first impression is the most important... first impression counts!

[Adrvs]

and when you're so close to release and you know you have an almost perfect game but there are still some flaws that will ruin gameplay you want to make it better instead of patching and repatching... first impression is the most important... first impression counts!

theres so much hype about the mod that IF it will be release ant it will have ANY flaws people will blame modders even harder, because it took years to release the game. Also, if it will be released, and many more people would start playing you would get better feedback for future patches. There's no such thing as perfection, you can only seek for it. We are talking about RTW, its pretty old game anyway and all the units will look like clones anyway, so lets get over the perfection thing and start playing it.

[Visarion]

I agree except for "the units will look like clones anyway" part...

[ajtboy]

So I have replied mutiple times in personal messages, and read MarcusTullius reply to me...

I am seeing NOTHING that indicates on this forum that my messages/repies are being received in the private message area...i've even tried sending new private messages, but it says i have sent none.

Any ideas???

[Kael BloodMoon]

The sheer arrogance of people amazes me sometimes.

Dude, just chill and be happy in the fact there is going to be a RS2. If your not happy with the speed of its development why not spend the time to learn some modding skills and help out?

This. Apparently OP forgot that this mod is made by FANS of RTW, not employees of CA, fans that may or may not have a real life. So I'll +1 the "shut up and be glad there WILL be RS2 at all" statement. Patience is a virtue.

[tone]

It's called real life. I have a full time day job and a family (wife and children) who have been exceptionally generous with allowing me time to work on this, so most of my development work ends up being between 11pm and 4am.

There are some remaining bits of economic balancing to sort out, the last small bits of modelling and skinning to finish then you'll get your mod.


....and don't think we haven't tried to get people involved.

[Visarion]

It's called real life. I have a full time day job and a family (wife and children) who have been exceptionally generous with allowing me time to work on this, so most of my development work ends up being between 11pm and 4am.

and we are very thankful for that tone! it was a sacrifice and I am convinced that you fell in love with your own creation just like Pygmalion... all I can say is that we'll wait paciently until release and hope Aphrodite will give life to your creation, your art... Roma Surectum!

[ajtboy]

It's called real life. I have a full time day job and a family (wife and children) who have been exceptionally generous with allowing me time to work on this, so most of my development work ends up being between 11pm and 4am.

There are some remaining bits of economic balancing to sort out, the last small bits of modelling and skinning to finish then you'll get your mod.


....and don't think we haven't tried to get people involved.

All I wanted was an answer...and this is one. I know MOST of us have lives...and thats why I asked if others could help.

Is there something I can do?...I have minor abilities in Modding, and I am in the middle of learning how to fully MOD....in order to help on future projects. I fear my own involvement now would slow you guys down.

The sheer arrogance of people amazes me sometimes.

Dude, just chill and be happy in the fact there is going to be a RS2. If your not happy with the speed of its development why not spend the time to learn some modding skills and help out?

I've said the same as what you have above...wouldn't quite call it arrogance.

Had your read more into my comment...you'd see that I was merely seeing what was holding up, and if anything can be done to speed it up.


Please use the edit button instead of double posting. /apple

[youdig66]

It's called real life. I have a full time day job and a family (wife and children) who have been exceptionally generous with allowing me time to work on this, so most of my development work ends up being between 11pm and 4am.

There are some remaining bits of economic balancing to sort out, the last small bits of modelling and skinning to finish then you'll get your mod.


....and don't think we haven't tried to get people involved.

Tone, in Dutch, we have a very good word for this 'verantwoording' which means that you explain things to people (mostly about the why). When I look it up in English, I get things as

1. accountability
2. responsibility
3. justification
4. amenability

But not one of those covers the Dutch word. However, since you are one of the leaders in this project, I seriously do think that you do not have to 'verantwoord' yourself to anyone here, except to the other team members.

[Sandrus Castus]

Tone, in Dutch, we have a very good word for this 'verantwoording' which means that you explain things to people (mostly about the why). When I look it up in English, I get things as

1. accountability
2. responsibility
3. justification
4. amenability

But not one of those covers the Dutch word. However, since you are one of the leaders in this project, I seriously do think that you do not have to 'verantwoord' yourself to anyone here, except to the other team members.

Kerel, eerlijk. Wees niet zo'n ambetanterik en heb gewoon wat geduld, zoals iedereen hier. Moest iedereen zo jammeren en klagen en zagen en steunen en kreunen, wel, de wereld zou er niet mooier op worden.


Just be patient guys, if they said it's not much longer, well, it won't be much longer. Go search a hobby to do while waiting for RS 2. Don't let your world be controlled by a game.

[Mataputas]

Tone, in Dutch, we have a very good word for this 'verantwoording' which means that you explain things to people (mostly about the why).

Would it be "to justify yourself"?

[tone]

Well we could still do with another few beta testers...basically the more involved the better really, in order to achieve better economic balancing before release.

[MarcusTullius]

I've already asked for beta testers over and over again. People seem to come in and leave after a week. We only have a core of about 5-8 people who have been around for a long time. People realise they also have a rl and can't cope with the testing unfortunately.

Any people who have some spare time over the next few weeks are welcome to message me.

[DedlySerious]

I've already asked for beta testers over and over again. People seem to come in and leave after a week. We only have a core of about 5-8 people who have been around for a long time. People realise they also have a rl and can't cope with the testing unfortunately.

Any people who have some spare time over the next few weeks are welcome to message me.

see my pm

[Visarion]

what are the exact attributes of a beta tester?

[ajtboy]

I've already asked for beta testers over and over again. People seem to come in and leave after a week. We only have a core of about 5-8 people who have been around for a long time. People realise they also have a rl and can't cope with the testing unfortunately.

Any people who have some spare time over the next few weeks are welcome to message me.

I thought beta testing was closed.

I'm in if you need me...what do you need me to do?...I already log a lot of hours a night on 1.6a during the week (3 hours) and on the weekend it can be as much as 6hrs on Saturday, and 8hrs on Sunday.

Being able to run a campaign and post screenshots. The guys who are most helpful are the ones who can say what's not quite right about their campaign and make some suggestions for improvement.

The main thing really is being able to post updates on campaigns regularly, and being happy to start again when we make appropriate changes.

Sign me up...I have no problems doing that, knowing that my feedback will help in these final stages.


Please use the edit button instead of double posting. /apple