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    Documentary made by the BBC showing evidence that many international (including British and American) Bankers funded Hitler before and during WW2. Bankers in Allied countries worked hand in hand with Hitler, including the Bank of England, who not only lent money to Hitler, even as Germany was invading Europe and bombing London, but also leaked valuable intelligence information to the Third Reich directly resulting in the shedding of Allied blood.
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    Found this very interesting, many well known banking names involved such as what is now JPMorgan Chase, Barclays and many more..

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    News flash - Bankers make loans to nation states!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    News flash - Bankers make loans to nation states!
    Uh huh...i can only assume you didnt even bother reviewing it..
    Handing over the czech gold from the bank of england to the nazi's for example, is not 'lending money'.
    The Chase bank seizing assets of jews and handing it to the nazi's, is not 'lending money'.
    The Nazi's using these groups to convert, gold teeth, watches and just about anything else they could gleam off the dead bodies of the holocaust. into franks through these bankers, is not ing lending money.

    Edit: you know, really, that has to be one of the most willfully ignorant statements ive seen in a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    News flash - Bankers make loans to nation states!
    Especially if they give it to the state which their country is at war with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    News flash - Bankers make loans to nation states!
    Your sig suggest your posts are not as stupid as they are, so please enlighten us dwellers why that wouldn't be morally and ethically bankrupt.
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    The Nazis had huge support from the burgoise of the west, that is a fact. The capitalist elites wanted not only to crush Soviet Union, but also the socialist movements in their own countries. And the best way to do that is to start wars so that the poor classes can sent off to kill eachother. It happens over and over, and will probably happen again. This is not a in conspiracy theory, it's pure logic!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platon View Post
    The Nazis had huge support from the burgoise of the west, that is a fact. The capitalist elites wanted not only to crush Soviet Union, but also the socialist movements in their own countries. And the best way to do that is to start wars so that the poor classes can sent off to kill eachother. It happens over and over, and will probably happen again. This is not a in conspiracy theory, it's pure logic!!

    Something like this can also be seen after the war, when resistance movements in many countries (like Italy, France, Greece, Vietnam, Indonesia) were crushed by the allies, often installing the same fascists those movements fought against during the occupation. While the German industrialists who bankrolled the Nazis, who had used the Nazis to wipe out the Unions and socialist movements in Germany, and who got even richer in the war, could continue to operate with impunity as if nothing had happened.

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    For some reason the cynic in me is shining through today. Being an internationalist myself I can imagine doing things against the interests of my country of birth and citizenship quite easily. And lets not kid ourselves here, the allies of WW2 were not exactly saints. In the contempory US blacks were scarcely being treated better than Jews under Hitler. Eugenics was a big hit then too.The Brits, well lets just say that 200 years of Empire didn't just come about from the adorable accents. I remember some things like strapping people to the ends of cannons, concentration camps and being the biggest drug pusher on the planet.


    Moral equivalency FTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    In the contempory US blacks were scarcely being treated better than Jews under Hitler. Eugenics was a big hit then too.The Brits, well lets just say that 200 years of Empire didn't just come about from the adorable accents. I remember some things like strapping people to the ends of cannons, concentration camps and being the biggest drug pusher on the planet.

    Moral equivalency FTW.
    What on earth?

    Are you now saying im attempting to whitewash other horrors in history?

    At what point in the thread did i say "the british empire was a saintly wonderful creation that did nothing but plant flowers"?
    If something bad is done, we arent allowed to find it interesting if not disgusting, because 'other bad stuff happened in history'.

    What exactly is your point here, because either im not getting it or your saying "please ignore this, you arent allowed to find this interesting or be in anyway appalled by it because the british empire did some bad stuff in the past" according to your 'Moral equivalency' i suppose mankind should just ignore anything bad in history, cos, well theres been lots of bad stuff, right?
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    Yeah, Anticommunism was a huge motivation in Western support for Hitler. Hell, Gearge Bernard Shaw supported eradication of the Jews. Not everyone reacted with outrage to the Shoah, which is disgusting.



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    I'm trying to get you understand their world view at the time.

    The great powers of WW2 were built on mountains of corpses. To a jaded internationalists Hitler and the Nazi from what was definitely known of them, probably didn't seem much worse than their own countries recent past. The ethics of lending and doing business with the Nazis probably didn't seem too much different than dealing with the thugs in the White House or 10 Downing Street.

    So I am not surpised to learn that banks, British and American, would deal with the Nazis, even when their respective home countries were at war with them.
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    Quite a few other corporations were involved as well. I heard that IBM for example created punch-card systems that helped the nazis operate and make records of their concentration camps.
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    “Rothschild’s agent Leon Trotsky was supposed to succeed Lenin but got sick at the critical moment. Stalin was able to assume power and divert Russia from Rothschild control.
    In order to control Stalin, international finance was forced to build up Hitler and the Nazi party. Rakowsky confirms that Jewish financiers backed the Nazis although Hitler was not aware of this.
    “The ambassador Warburg presented himself under a false name and Hitler did not even guess his race… he also lied regarding whose representative he was… Our aim was to provoke a war and Hitler was war…[the Nazis] received…millions of dollars sent to it from Wall Street, and millions of Marks from German financiers through Schacht; [providing] the upkeep of the S.A and the S.S. and also the financing of the elections…”
    Unfortunately for the bankers, Hitler also proved intractable. He started to print his own money!
    HITLER'S SECRET BACKERS
    The book "Financial Origins of National Socialism" (1933) by "Sydney Warburg" provides another glimpse of how the Illuminist clique supported Hitler. This 70-page booklet was suppressed for many years but was republished in 1983 as "Hitler's Secret Backers."
    "Warburg" describes a July 1929 meeting with "Carter," the President of J.P. Morgan's Guarantee Trust, the Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks, "the young Rockefeller" and "Glean from Royal Dutch." These are all Rothschild dominated.
    It was determined that Warburg who spoke German should travel to Germany and ask Hitler how much money he needed to overthrow the state. The only stipulation was that Hitler adopts "an aggressive foreign policy."
    "Warburg" details five meetings with Hitler between 1929 and 1933. The first took place in a beer cellar and Hitler calculated his needs on the back of a paper plate. About $25 million was transferred. This was extremely important in the depth of the depression because the Nazis provided food and shelter to many of their supporters.
    Hitler wasn't told the reason for this support and did not ask. On two occasions, he wondered out loud if "Warburg" was himself Jewish but dismissed the idea before "Warburg" could reply.
    There is no "Sydney Warburg" but the internal evidence suggests the author could be James P. Warburg, son of Federal Reserve founder Paul Warburg. General Ludendorff's wife testified at the Nuremburg trials that James P. Warburg was the conduit through which eventually $34 million was transferred from Wall Street to the Nazis.
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    Hitler was financed for 2 reasons:
    a) His open anti semitism should drive out the diasporah jews from germany to palestine.The zionists had a hard time to convince faithful torah jews(="we are in exile by god, only god can give us Israel") to leave their convenient livelyhoods in germany and austria- in favor to settle in an underdeveloped third world desert state.

    b) After Stalin knocked out the jewish agent trotzky, he replaced internationalist communism with nationalistic communism. This was not according to the plan and the soviet experiment was threatened. They wanted Hitler to knock him out.

    What they did not expect/or simply underrestimated, was that Hitler was bold enough to issue his own currency, and thus depriving the money lenders off their power and influence. Also Hitler´s national socialist germany was living proof to the world, that the true way to prosperity and well beeing of the nation is interest free, state issued currency, and not the privately owned interest burdened debt slavery we are now living in.

    Hitler turned out to be even more dangerous than Stalin.
    When Hitler dared to kick out the banksters, a world wide boycott was issued attempting to stiffle Hitlers freedom from debt slavery:
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    The result was as follows: The germans on their side retaliated by issueing a boycott against the local jews.
    A little sidequest:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Hitler also didnt play out according to plan, with regard to palestine:
    Before the war, and still in the early stages thereof, the Germans had seriously considered as a solution the settling of European Jews on the island of Madagascar. In doing so they were taking up an idea that had been studied in 1937 by the Polish, French and British authorities, and even by the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, but, with the intensification of the conflict, they had to abandon that idea. As for the settling of European Jews in Palestine, they had ended up firmly opposing it. As late as in January 1944, during talks with the British, the German foreign office stated that, if the British would in fact agree to take in a convoy of 5,000 Jews comprised of children (85%) and accompanying adults (15%), it could only be on condition of accepting them definitively and of prohibiting their subsequent emigration to Palestine:
    The Government of the Reich cannot take part in a maneuver aimed at allowing the Jews to chase the noble and valiant Palestinian people from their mother country, Palestine. These talks can continue only on condition that the British Government declare its readiness to accommodate the Jews in Great Britain and not in Palestine, and that it guarantee them the possibility to settle there definitively (reminder from von Thadden, of the German foreign office's Gruppe Inland II, Berlin, 29 April, 1944; document catalogued by the Allies under the number NG-1794 and reproduced in French by Henri Monneray, former assistant in the French delegation's office of prosecution at the Nuremberg trial, in his work La Persécution des juifs dans les Pays de l'Est, assemblage of documents, Paris, Editions du Centre [i.e., the Centre de documentation juive contemporaine], 1949, p. 169-170).
    On January 18, 1945 Heinrich Himmler wrote in a personal note made after a meeting with Swiss president Jean-Marie Lusy, who served as intermediary with the Americans:


    Once again I more precisely stated to him my view [on the Jews]. We put our Jews to work, including, of course, in heavy labor, such as road and canal construction, in mining operations, and as a result there has been a high death rate. Since negotiations began about improving the lot of the Jews, they have been assigned to normal work, although naturally they have to work, just like Germans, in the armaments industry. Our point of view on the Jewish question is this: we are not at all interested in the position taken by America and England regarding the Jews. One thing is clear: based on our decades of experience with them since the [first] world war, we do not want them in Germany or in the German living space, and in this matter we will not allow any discussion. If America wants them, we welcome that. It is not to be permitted — and for this a guarantee must be given — that the Jews whom we let out by way of Switzerland ever be transferred to Palestine. We know that the Arabs reject the Jews just as much as we Germans do and we will not permit the indecency [Unanständigkeit] of sending still more Jews to that poor nation already tormented by the Jews (original document, with Himmler's hand-written annotations, as reproduced by Werner Maser, Nürnberg, Tribunal der Sieger, Droemer Knaur, Munich-Zurich, 1979, p. 262-263).
    In their common war against, on the one hand, the British and, on the other hand, Soviet communism, Adolf Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin Al Husseini, were allies. SS formations, such as the "Handschar" (scimitar) and "Skanderbeg" (the Albanian national hero) divisions, were either largely or wholly made up of Moslems and in various spots in Europe, beginning with France, Arabs had rallied to the German cause. In Iraq, Rashid Ali and, in India, Subhas Chandra Bose, founder of the Indian National Army, had also taken sides with Germany and against Britain.
    Prof. Faurisson

    There was a close Nazi /Zionist cooperation in the beginning. Going as far as teaching the jews of how to run their own nation state in the Theresienstadt Ghetto, bringing jewish settlers to palestine via a swastika flagged ship named "Tel Aviv" a.s.o


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amagi View Post
    Hitler turned out to be even more dangerous than Stalin.
    When Hitler dared to kick out the banksters, a world wide boycott was issued attempting to stiffle Hitlers freedom from debt slavery:

    I read the "freedom from debt article" but there are several problems with that particular line of thinking. The system works great within a single country but it fails when trade between nations is done. Could you picture trying to pay Japan for an imported Toyota with "Labor Treasury Certificates"...? The local govenrment can print as many as they want, so if it is going to be a means of exchange then theoretically you could print enough money to buy the entire world. As you can see that is clearly absurd. A government can not dictate the value of its currency. This is why whenever governments print more of their own money the value of the currency drops due to dilution of the money supply rather than inflation.
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    Do any of the videos posted go into the motivations of the bankers? If so, which?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice and Mercy View Post
    Do any of the videos posted go into the motivations of the bankers? If so, which?
    To make money, I would imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle_Bombs View Post
    To make money, I would imagine.
    In what manner, exactly?
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    i didnt have time to watch all of it but it doesnt surprise me. forgive me if something else in the vid reveals otherwise but wouldnt this best fit in (whatever the history forum is called i forget)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pchalk View Post
    i didnt have time to watch all of it but it doesnt surprise me. forgive me if something else in the vid reveals otherwise but wouldnt this best fit in (whatever the history forum is called i forget)
    A good question! Political academy is for discussing political theory in the abstract, as opposed to particular events or individuals. This is about specific individuals (well a group) and I do not see any discussion of political theory.

    I personally find the OP lacking in sufficient content to justify the thread other than pasting a few youtube videos. I and other members can go seek out the videos and other such material on our own. We are more interested in member commentary.

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    I haven't read any replies to this topic nor watched the video, but I find it incredibly hard to believe the British Government would lend money to Hitler during the war. Before the war yes, during the invasion of Poland yes, but not whilst being at war. Especially since it would mean lending money at the same time as borrowing from the Americans.
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