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    Default And the moon mission is done.

    I'm watching the science channel right now which is going over what they are doing for the new moon program, and how they are mapping it etc.

    Which is a shame because....

    Boldly going nowhere: Nasa ends plan to put man back on Moon
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    Nasa has begun to wind down construction of the rockets and spacecraft that were to have taken astronauts back to the Moon — effectively dismantling the US human spaceflight programme despite a congressional ban on its doing so.
    Legislators have accused President Obama’s Administration of contriving to slip the termination of the Constellation programme through the back door to avoid a battle on Capitol Hill.
    Constellation aimed to build upon what was arguably America’s greatest technological achievement, the first lunar landing of 1969, by launching new expeditions to the Moon and to Mars and worlds beyond. Mr Obama proposed in February that it should be scrapped because it was “over budget, behind schedule and lacking in innovation”, but he has met opposition in Congress, which has yet to approve his plan.The head of Nasa, Major-General Charlie Bolden — an Obama appointee — has now written to aerospace contractors telling them to cut back immediately on Constellation-related projects costing almost $1 billion (£690 million), to comply with regulations requiring them to budget for possible contract termination costs.
    The move has been branded a “disingenuous legal manoeuvre” and referred to Nasa’s inspector-general for investigation. “It’s bordering on arrogance by the Administration to boldly and brazenly go forward with this approach. It shows a blatant disregard for Congress,” said the Republican Congressman Rob Bishop, of Utah, whose constituency stands to lose thousands of jobs. Two weeks ago the Senate passed legislation that compels Nasa to continue work on Constellation unless Congress directs otherwise. That legislation is due to be signed into law by Mr Obama this month while Congress continues its deliberations over his proposal to cancel the current space space progamme.

    Neil Armstrong blasts ‘devastating’ Nasa cuts


    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Texas Republican and member of the Senate’s Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, said: “The timing of Nasa’s decision to push forward with these actions now, before this becomes law, is highly questionable.” Nasa is “willfully subverting the repeatedly expressed will of Congress”, she added.
    Scott Pace, a former Nasa executive and now the Director of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University, said: “The effect will be to stop work on Constellation and lay off or transfer people to other jobs. If Congress then says it wants to continue going ahead with Constellation, those people will be difficult to re-hire. It’s already a difficult situation, but this will introduce more instability.”
    Constellation was born in 2004 from President George W. Bush’s vision for returning Americans to the Moon by 2020 and using it as a base to build the knowledge and technologies for a manned mission to Mars by 2030. Since then, more than $9 billion has been spent on designing and building the necessary space vehicles.
    An independent review panel appointed by Mr Obama last year concluded, however, that without an extra $3 billion a year Constellation was on an “unsustainable trajectory”. In his proposed budget for the 2011 fiscal year, unveiled in February, Mr Obama made it clear that there would be no extra money for its continuation. The proposal has yet to clear Congress.
    Distinguished space veterans, including the first and last men to walk on the Moon, Neil Armstrong and Gene Cernan, have complained that the abandonment of Constellation will set America’s space capabilities on a “downhill slide to mediocrity”. They say that, while Mr Obama has outlined a vision for Nasa that includes sending people to Mars at some point, it lacks a concise plan for developing the rockets and spacecraft to get them there.
    “The Administration has no planning, no programme and no idea — they’d just have these things happen mysteriously,” Mr Bishop said. “Rockets aren’t something that Wal-Mart puts on its shelves. You have to have a plan for how you get from A to B, and Obama has just said we’ll work it as we go along and maybe some day we’ll end up on an asteroid or the Moon or somewhere. The bottom line is, those ‘maybes’ will never happen.”
    Private rocket developers, to whom Mr Obama proposes outsourcing the task of carrying crews and cargo to the International Space Station after the shuttle fleet retires, are making advances. Ten days ago Elon Musk, a spaceflight entrepreneur — and founder of the online payment system PayPal — launched a near-flawless test flight of his Falcon 9 rocket, which is designed to take payloads and ultimately human beings into space.


    Its done.
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    Wooooow. That is just plain stupid.

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    it can't be done...

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    World needs to get together and make a global space-based program already

    Before the north koreans take over the galaxy
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    Quote Originally Posted by vicrious View Post
    World needs to get together and make a global space-based program already

    Before the north koreans take over the galaxy
    Yep, ESA should expand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vicrious View Post
    World needs to get together and make a global space-based program already

    Before the north koreans take over the galaxy
    Yep. I want the first man to meet a Vulcan to be an American

    Seriously though, if people actually put effort all together in space expeditions it would speed up progress for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicrious View Post
    Before the north koreans take over the galaxy
    There's no time to spare. By 2020 they will have nanosuits as good as ours.
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    Default Re: And the moon mission is done.

    Who still cares about the moon? It's Mars, Europe, Titan who are interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupoftea View Post
    Who still cares about the moon? It's Mars, Europe, Titan who are interesting.
    I don't know. People say Asia is the rising giant nowadays, and there are lots of places to visit in America. Europe is the place to be though if you like football and beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupoftea View Post
    Who still cares about the moon? It's Mars, Europe, Titan who are interesting.
    If we can't get to the bloody moon, relatively easily, then forget all about Mars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    If we can't get to the bloody moon, relatively easily, then forget all about Mars.
    Surely you can get to Europe though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicrious View Post
    World needs to get together and make a global space-based program already

    Before the north koreans take over the galaxy


    True ing true we should have battlecruisers by the end of the year.
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    Obama needs to die painfully for this

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    My normal daily life has now been profoundly changed now that we are not going to the moon...again....

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    Constellation aimed to build upon what was arguably America’s greatest technological achievement, the first lunar landing of 1969, by launching new expeditions to the Moon and to Mars and worlds beyond. Mr Obama proposed in February that it should be scrapped because it was “over budget, behind schedule and lacking in innovation”, but he has met opposition in Congress, which has yet to approve his plan.The head of Nasa, Major-General Charlie Bolden — an Obama appointee — has now written to aerospace contractors telling them to cut back immediately on Constellation-related projects costing almost $1 billion (£690 million), to comply with regulations requiring them to budget for possible contract termination costs.
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    Just getting it out of the way.
    George bush did something that people like and dislike Obama for cancelling?
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    I don't get why Obama hates the space program, but he does. There was talk of this when he was elected and not even in office. Its rather astounding to me because its an easy place to score points with both the right and most of the left.

    I think he did this because if he doesn't do it now its going to be that much harder after november. He basically flipped off his own democrat controlled congress who didn't want this either.

    He wants $50 BILLION more now to save state payrolls, yet hes willing to throw away 9 billion in investment because of 3 billion more needed in funding as 'too expensive'.

    Its incredibly asinine.
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    Its incredibly asinine
    As are your fallacies and biases against him.

    Yes, I agree that Obama was dumb for cutting the space stuff but you have to realize that since 1969 every president has been wondering and conservative groups pushing for spending on earth 'first' has destroyed the prestige or even completely eclipsed the reason to do it. It's unfortunate that obama has to go out of his way to grab a few republican votes because they refuse to let a single piece of real legislation pass and I don't think the budget cut on it is anything more than an attempt to pull enough over to independent to end the filibuster lock. The republicans are filibustering every bill of consequence.

    Also you seem to think the democrats are a united party, they aren't. Democrats think for themselves rather than what their party leader's emails say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elfdude View Post

    Yes, I agree that Obama was dumb for cutting the space stuff
    There, now your post works, the rest was rather...random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    There, now your post works, the rest was rather...random.
    Oh really?

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    I don't get why Obama hates the space program, but he does.
    Proof please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    There was talk of this when he was elected and not even in office.
    Proof please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Its rather astounding to me because its an easy place to score points with both the right and most of the left.
    This isn't true.

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    I think he did this because if he doesn't do it now its going to be that much harder after november.
    K.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    He basically flipped off his own democrat controlled congress who didn't want this either.
    Right because congress has no say. Good point. I like how you use democratic controlled congress even though that's not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    He wants $50 BILLION more now to save state payrolls, yet hes willing to throw away 9 billion in investment because of 3 billion more needed in funding as 'too expensive'.
    Hey, lookit that an actually good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Its incredibly asinine.
    I like how you took 1 good point and inflated it into a post about random conjecture and conspiracy. Good job!

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