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    Past experience and basic logic have shown us that neither of the two major political parties can be a vessel for real change, The Democrats have shown themselves to be just as power hungry and pro-Big Business as the Republicans, and the Republicans are as always trapped in a corporate-fueled wet dream about bringing back the "good old days" of the "free market" and state religion. The only significant difference between the Democrats and Republicans is a differing view on how to divide and rule, We are no better off under Obama and Biden than we would be under McCain and Palin, A real substance of their "difference" can be seen when you look at the fact that Joe Biden attempted to convince John Kerry to choose John McCain as his running mate in the 2003 elections, Doesn't this show just how "different" the two corporate parties really are? The labor movement must break with the Democrats. Armed with class-independent, socialist policies that can truly answer the needs and aspirations of workers and youth, a genuine workers' party based on the unions would get a mass echo, giving us the chance to create a fighting program against the attacks of big business and the bosses' political parties. Change will not come from above, or an outside force, but only through the actions of the masses.


    I have included the Workers' International League's Open Letter to the Pennsylvania Labor Movement.

    Open Letter to the Pennsylvania Labor Movement
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    Open Letter to the Pennsylvania Labor Movement

    Brothers and Sisters,

    The Workers International League (WIL) fully supports the recent activity of workers standing up for their rights in the face of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Even though it is big business and the rich which cause the economic downturn, it is always us, the workers, who are made to pay for their crisis. The WIL supports the recent march in Philadelphia on the 19th of March and the move toward class independent politics in Pennsylvania. Even though president Obama promised “change,” workers are angry that the administration has continued the policies of the Bush administration.

    Even more encouraging is the recent talk of running an independent labor candidate, the first in a long time! This would be a much welcomed change for many workers who are fed up with the Democratic Party’s policies of supporting big business and their lack of action toward meeting the needs of working people. This candidate should fight for a free and truly universal health care system and full employment. This can be paid for from the great riches that have been accumulated by the banks, insurance companies and the super rich. This campaign should also emphasize unity of workers and youth and put the blame for poverty and unemployment on to which it belongs: corporate America.

    We fully support the running of Brother Jack Shea as an independent labor candidate in the general election. A truly independent candidate should not run in the Democratic party primary election or simply run a “write in” campaign. Such candidates should instead work to be directly on the ballot against the candidates of big business this fall. Many more workers vote in the general election than in the primaries as they do not identify with parties that represent the employers. Running as an independent labor candidate in the general election would give the people a chance to really express their dissatisfaction with the status quo. If the national labor movement backs this candidate, he could win this election. However, whether he wins or loses this election, the fact that such a campaign has even been organized would be a victory as it would as it would be the beginning of future independent labor candidates across the country.

    The richest one percent owns more than the bottom 95%. Both the Republicans and the Democrats serve the interests of that one percent. The bottom 95% needs candidates of our own. If the labor movement can run independent candidates in this fall’s election, then after the election, meetings should be called around the country so the labor movement can form its own political party. Enough of electing millionaires to make decisions that affect hundreds of millions of working class Americans. We need working class candidates from a working class party that makes decisions for the working class majority. This would be a real democracy!

    Brother Bill George was correct when he said “It’s time to get ours back. The banks got theirs. It’s revolution time. It’s the only thing they understand.” Well Brother George, the revolution begins in Pittsburgh with the running of Jack Shea for Congress! We throw our whole hearted support behind Jack Shea in his quest for Congress, just as we throw the same support behind the Americans who are looking for actual change, change that only Labor candidates can provide! Onward to Victory in Pennsylvania!

    In solidarity,

    The Workers International League


    Also, here are a few insightful quotes from the Resolution of the Hague Conference of the First International on the
    establishment of working-class parties, drafted by Marx and Engels

    “Against the collective power of the propertied classes the working class cannot act, as a class, except by constituting itself into a political party, distinct from, and opposed to, all old parties formed by the propertied classes.

    “This constitution of the working class into a political party is indispensable in order to insure the triumph of the social revolution and its ultimate end -- the abolition of classes.

    “The combination of forces which the working class has already effected by its economical struggles ought at the same time to serve as a lever for its struggles against the political power of landlords and capitalists.

    “The lords of the land and the lords of capital will always use their political privileges for the defense and perpetuation of their economical monopolies and for enslaving labor. To conquer political power has therefore become the great duty of the working classes.”
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    no

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    Too [sic] all high school communists: I don't want to be in your mass party of labor. Comfort yourself with this. Or maybe come back with something better than slogans next time.
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    And what about the communists who aren't in High School?

    @DM, I could've sworn America already has a party like that lurking on the fringe somewhere. Probably more like 12 parties like that, but meh.

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    “The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”

    —Sir William Francis Butler

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    Ah, 13, not 12. I was close though...

    Let's face it - the US is not Europe. Hell will freeze over before there is a genuine leftist opposition in Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle_Bombs View Post
    Ah, 13, not 12. I was close though...

    Let's face it - the US is not Europe. Hell will freeze over before there is a genuine leftist opposition in Congress.
    If those parties would unite and focus their money on winnable districts there might be a chance.
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    no im good but thanks for the offer
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    Same old. They way communists in general talk, act and show themselves will eventually cause communism to shrink even further. Want more supporters, then you need to completely change the image of communism...

    The responses in this thread shows that people in general have 0 interest in your OP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0N3 View Post
    Same old. They way communists in general talk, act and show themselves will eventually cause communism to shrink even further. Want more supporters, then you need to completely change the image of communism...

    The responses in this thread shows that people in general have 0 interest in your OP...
    It's kind of hard to change the face of Communism when dolts like Kim Jong Il keep screwing it all up for us. Plus how can we show you a new face when no one will give Communism a chance?

    Just saying. I don't disagree at all, Communism has a bad rap. It would be hard to get a Communistic/Socialist government in and honestly get it to work right, but everything's possible.

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    Good luck with that. Maybe you'll actually get someone to vote for you someday.

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    I think it's fair to assume that it's not gonna happen.

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    This constitution of the working class into a political party is indispensable in order to insure the triumph of the social revolution and its ultimate end -- the abolition of classes.
    I guess the Constitution of the United States, the one our country is founded upon and has helped make us the freest country ever, isn't good enough?

    I don't mind if you want to be communist, but just go do it in an already communist country. Maybe when you see all the people being murdered and the "freedom" communism brings you might learn something.

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    In the early 20th century Socialists actually had mild electoral success in the United States.

    The Libertarian Party has the most potential to become a viable third party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Leary View Post
    In the early 20th century Socialists actually had mild electoral success in the United States.

    The Libertarian Party has the most potential to become a viable third party.
    yep. the now mostly conservative midwest was a hotbed of socialist movements. that changed when politicians successfully moved politics away from economics to social issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Leary View Post
    In the early 20th century Socialists actually had mild electoral success in the United States.
    Thats because in the early 20th century the failures were simply theoretical, no proof, we have proof now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confederate Jeb View Post
    I guess the Constitution of the United States, the one our country is founded upon and has helped make us the freest country ever, isn't good enough?
    I always have to keep myself from responding to this notion and I always feel. I'm -not- an anti American. I great value western society and America's place within it. But America is not the freest country ever. It simply isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confederate Jeb View Post
    I guess the Constitution of the United States, the one our country is founded upon and has helped make us the freest country ever, isn't good enough?

    .
    What the Hell gives you the notion that the USA is the freest country ever? Do you live in Rural Alabama or something?

    EDIT: lol, that probably explains your username, now that I think about it.

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    The American proletariat, or whatever you want to call it, is simply too diverse to form a succesful working class party. I also doubt that a lot of people would have any real interest in it, socialism is still a toxic word, especially among the more socio-economic disadvantaged. That being said I do believe Americans would benefit greatly from a 3rd party that would break with the corporations and lobby groups be it whatever ideology




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    Yes a third party probably wouldn't be that bad for the US.

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