Siege Questions

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How do I make rams weaker (or gates stronger)?

Rams invariably seem to make it to the gates even if attacked by archers/ballista towers and it would be good to increase the chance of the ram not making it to the gate (or taking longer to get there/break through).

I used to send a unit out on a suicide mission to slow the ram's progress but have noticed that the AI drops the ram and never picks it up again (or any other siege equipment) so have stopped doing this therefore a less potent ram would even-out this self-inflicted rule.

Siege AI
I know this is not new but was attacked by 2 large armies (the second as usual had no siege equipment ) - the second army did not move for the whole battle.

[JorisofHolland]

I can't answer your first question (actually, I can redirect you to the Mod Workshop), but to your second question I might have a solution. I noticed the AI more often sends it's second army to a breach than to a ladder, or a tower. I'm not certain though.

[Russian Gondor]

I feel your pain. Best thing I would say is take a catapult or ballista out, shoot the ram, and run back inside.

[jinjo]

ballista towers and boil are useful to destroy rams but still it is not solution
the best solution for defense is to have big army in city

[JorisofHolland]

ballista towers and boil are useful to destroy rams but still it is not solution
the best solution for defense is to have big army in city

A better solution is to hold all cities, so that you can't be sieged at all.

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Defending the city isn't the problem - its easy to attack a ram with militia causing the AI to drop the ram forever but this seems like cheating. So rather than do this, and to add some variability, I'd like to know how to alter the ram's values to make them less potent (assuming the AI wont pick it up again....)

[Russian Gondor]

In this mod the AI picks up the ram. No more bug abuse.

[Knox213]

uihh.... When your being attacke.d YOu have to wait for the AI To attack you. ( I Had the sme problem... The AI Would not move at all... GOt really Irritating.... ) So i'd recommend waiting a couple of turns for the AI To actuallly attack you...

[Goth]

To make rams burn easier you need to alter a file called descr_engines which can be found in the data folder of the mod you are playing. Open the file using notepad and scroll down untill you find the lines below
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type tortoise_ram
culture all
class ram
pathfinding_data none

engine_model_group normal
engine_skeleton tortoise_ram
engine_bone_map siege_engines/BoneMaps/ram_v2.xml
engine_collision siege_engines/collision_models/ram_collision.CAS
engine_mesh siege_engines/ram_model_v2.mesh, 40.0
engine_mesh siege_engines/ram_model_v2.mesh, 80.0
engine_mesh siege_engines/ram_model_v2.mesh, max

engine_model_group dying
engine_skeleton tortoise_ram_dying
engine_bone_map siege_engines/BoneMaps/ram_v2_destroy.xml
engine_collision siege_engines/collision_models/ram_collision.CAS
engine_mesh siege_engines/destroyed/ram_model_v2_destruction.mesh, max


engine_model_group dead
engine_collision siege_engines/collision_models/ram_collision.CAS
engine_mesh siege_engines/destroyed/ram_model_v2_destroyed.mesh, max

engine_shadow none

engine_radius 4
engine_visual_radius 20
engine_length 4
engine_width 1.2
engine_height 4.0
engine_mass 10
engine_dock_dist 5.0
engine_mob_dist 8.0
engine_flammable true
engine_ignition 0.20
fire_effect engine_fire_medium_set

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the line you need to alter is engine_ignition 0.20

the higher you set the value the easier it will burn, but be careful because if you set it too high and have unit size set to huge it will burn too easy. the setting 0.70 is what i use for rams on huge unit level


To alter gate strength you need to alter the file called descr_walls, open with notepad again and each wall or gate has a health value attacthed to it (see below)

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gate short_wooden
{
full_health 250
height 10.0 ; TODO -
pursuit_lockout_radius 80.0
blocked_lockout_radius 70.0
}
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just increase the health to strengthen the gate
hope this helps
Goth

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Many thanks - question answered.