Do we tend to Idealize Japan

[jo the greek]

I like Japanese Culture it seems Great but dont we have to look
behind the curtain.

Yes they had produced a pretty unique culture as many islanders do that are pretty isolated Maori or Cretans they are pretty proud of their culture.

But the truth is their isolation is that made them look cool and tough they never faced difficulties that others faced .


So in Japans history

Just think

Hmm in WW2 they did pretty brave-crazy stuff some say even out from fear kamikazi attacks banzai attacks . Seemed great but reality were tragic.

Or lets think Mongol invasion in Japan Reality vs Japan 1-0


Or Japanese invasion in Korea.

Another example is the Katana and Japanese Armour

I cannot deny that a Katana was well made but also cannot deny that also other Cultures could produce the same quality weapons as Mughals

Or that Japanese armour seems sophisticated but was produced even in eras that was nt needed and was expensive .



Other examples to brought people in Earth is for example that a Katana cannot cut even through chain Mail .
And that a Man with A Yari could deal an happened with a KAtana .


What i try to explain Japans history is great but not so great to Idealize
and what a person should admires is their discipline and devotion that was created from their Isolation.

And not idealize swords and etc

[dogukan]

well, I'd kind want to live in high medieval Japan. Not just because of the culture, but the geography as well. Not necessarily as a warrior. But I'd like to learn their fighting art.
I always think of Japan as a peacefull place, with lots of greenlands and mountains. The image in my mind just beautiful. Kind of like in The Last Samurai. Without the constant wars.

[Their Law]

well, I'd kind want to live in high medieval Japan. Not just because of the culture, but the geography as well. Not necessarily as a warrior. But I'd like to learn their fighting art.
I always think of Japan as a peacefull place, with lots of greenlands and mountains. The image in my mind just beautiful. Kind of like in The Last Samurai. Without the constant wars.

Ironic considering it's famous for it's fractious history.

[dogukan]

Ironic considering it's famous for it's fractious history.

Like I said, culture and nature is what attracts me. Not the stuff that happened.

[jo the greek]

Like I said, culture and nature is what attracts me. Not the stuff that happened.

Romantic Dogukan

[Caliph]

I think the fact that Japan is so far away geographically from most places (except for china, korea and even australia who all hardly idolize the japanse) and they seem completey self-sufficient with hardly any one complaining to the out side world, is why no one bothers to look past the curtiain.

[dogukan]

Romantic Dogukan

hah, you could say that. The thing is I am extremely attracted to stuff in history, ethnical varietes, and certain geographies.

My favorite geography and climate, is...well Anatolia. I can feel in the ancient times, feel the variety, the geography. The steppes, the foggy green mountains, the seaside, the Medittrenean/Aegean climate. I can not describe the feeling of southeast..but if you remember the Armenia in RTW, and the their eastern atmosphere and musics, thats how I feel when I think about there. I love the combination of ALL of these.

Jumping into nature, discovering stuff, wandering ancient city ruins...I always try to go back in time, and feel like what I'd be doing if I were in shoes of a man who lived many many years ago.


Well, you get the idea, hopefully. It's really hard to put in words as it is a very personal thing But the same applies for Japan as well. It is another one of my favorite geography and cultural area.

One other would be Medittrenean area. Italy and Greece, and a little bit of Balkans and it's mountains.

Although I do not like the northern European area, at all, I'd also like to be in shoes of a Celt in Scotland-Ireland.


I like visualizing and being there a lot. Well this way of thinking makes me hate the modern way of life sometimes. (but when you think about it, modern way of life has LOOOTS of positives as well)
If I could choose who I could be in the past. It would be one of those travellers. Evliya Çelebi of the Ottomans would be my pick.

[Katsumoto]

The only people that ideolise it are those who haven't actually sat down and read the facts/history.

[Turumba]

The only people that ideolise it are those who haven't actually sat down and read the facts/history.

Yes. When i was much younger i tend to idealize Japan. I seemed far away and free of senseless wars, full of high spirituality... then i´m growing older get the facts.

So, maybe its a matter of age? In my case it was...

[Babur]

The only people that ideolise it are those who haven't actually sat down and read the facts/history.

and those who haven't been there

[hellheaven1987]

The only people that ideolise it are those who haven't actually sat down and read the facts/history.

Agree. The rather fact is that Japan was a feudal society same as Europe from 11th Century until 19th Century - the principles were not much different, just they were Eastern Asian culture (with a lot of Chinese influence).

[Hookah Smoking Caterpiller]

Well, wapanese idelize japan, but any one who has actually read some history, like Katsumo said, knows quite diffrent.

[Slaytaninc]

I think it has to do with the popularity that Anime has achieved in Western culture.

[Jaketh]

Modern Japan is freaking insane

[saxdude]

I think it has to do with the popularity that Anime has achieved in Western culture.

This

Modern Japan is freaking insane

This again.
Its a shame that when people think about age old samurai, ninja and overall japanese pre-world war 2 history they think of things like naruto and afro-samurai.

[Roboute Guilliman]

This

This again.
Its a shame that when people think about age old samurai, ninja and overall japanese pre-world war 2 history they think of things like naruto and afro-samurai.

Its like watching lord of the rings and thinking about medieval europe ^^.

[43rdFoot]

I don't idealize Japan. I don't even like Japanese things.

[Slaytaninc]

I don't idealize Japan. I don't even like Japanese things.

Cool. Can we form a club?

[removeduser_4536284751384]

If Japan was picked up and thrown in the bay of biscay during the middle ages it wouldn't last very long.

[Rolling Thunder]

If Japan was picked up and thrown in the bay of biscay during the middle ages it wouldn't last very long.

Agreed. Nor would it be missed.