Turkeys Relation with Israel and the West

[Pickle_mole]

In light of recent events it would seem to me the close relationship Turkey and Israel have enjoyed are over. Turkeys Islamist government seems to be in the mindset of becoming the regional muslim power and to do that they will have to confront Israel which you are seeing now. Personnally I would love to see Turkey turn from ally to enemy of the west, they have really only been an ally due to their geographic location and nothing else.

What do you see happening and what does it mean/look like.

Heres some interesting videos on it, pretty insightfull considering when it was made.




How the crap do you edit a thread title?

[cenkiss]

What?Turkey is not going to send ships for palestine.

[Stavroforos]

Yes, I would say the relations are somewhat Trukey right now.

[Armenum]

Israel may go about recognizing Armenian Genocide, as a payback to Turkey. the Armenian Genocide issue has come up recently in the Knesset and is to be voted on. If such a thing happens, I can see Armenia becoming closer with Israel as Israel furthers itself from Turkey, including Georgia and the Kurds. Armenia has a long history with Jews, Armenian Kings saved many Jewish refugees and allowed them to reside in Armenia. It will be interesting if such a shift happens.

[Heinz Guderian]

The greatest threat to Israel is the spread of democracy in the middle east.

[General David]

I've also thought of this myself, because before the flotilla fuss, it was planned that the Armenian genocide was going to be discussed in the Knesset in the near future. This may or may not happen... If Israel's sympathy for the Armenians was sincere, I'm sure that Israel would have taken this step many years ago. Right now I'm actually not optimistic for the Israeli recognition any time soon because Israel feels isolated in the region and does not want its ties with its Turkish allies to flush down the toilet, and would rather aim to improve its ties.

[Amagi]

Will be interesting. When turkey guards the next flotilla ships and gets attacked by israel... Keeping in mind that turkey is a NATO member, and if she would demand support from her NATO allies, ... will be very interesting to see what happens then.

[Manuel I Komnenos]

Will be interesting. When turkey guards the next flotilla ships and gets attacked by israel... Keeping in mind that turkey is a NATO member, and if she would demand support from her NATO allies, ... will be very interesting to see what happens then.

If Turkey and Israel wanna go to war NATO will not do anything.. It's their problem, let them solve it..

[athanaric]

Will be interesting. When turkey guards the next flotilla ships and gets attacked by israel... Keeping in mind that turkey is a NATO member, and if she would demand support from her NATO allies, ... will be very interesting to see what happens then.

We won't do . If a single NATO member is so dick-headed to mess with an allied state, the other countries won't support it.
Hitler's venting a lot of steam right now, but he hasn't got the balls to actually make a military move that could lead to a war with a technologically advanced state. It won't be long before Turkish leaders start to cool down and take a pragmatic approach.

[cenkiss]

We won't do . If a single NATO member is so dick-headed to mess with an allied state, the other countries won't support it.
Hitler's venting a lot of steam right now, but he hasn't got the balls to actually make a military move that could lead to a war with a technologically advanced state. It won't be long before Turkish leaders start to cool down and take a pragmatic approach.

Who did Turkey mess with?And Turkey always helped Nato operations everywhere.Did Turkey ever ask many things in return?Israel is not in Nato and it is not allied with all nato countries.

And who is that Hitler?People in Turkey care about their citizens being killed while you always stupidly try to divert everything against israel into anti-semitizm.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Yes Pickel Mole Turkey has no right to be bothered by Israel killing Turkish civilians in international waters if they in anyway take offense they're evil Islamists intent on converting you and your family to islam at sword point and making my sister wear a burqa.

[PointOfViewGun]

We can't really put Turkey at one side and West and Israel at an other. While Turkey have been growing tired of Israel, it also got closer to many Western countries.

The stain on the Israeli-Turkish friendship happened back when peace talks were going in Turkey, Israel entered Gaza. It gave Turkey a message "We don't really care about you!" So since then Israel have been using a 5 year old kids policy of alienating a friend. It's more likely today that the peaceful relationships will end for some time.

[dogukan]

Turkeys Islamist government

Islamist government? I did not know our laws were based on any religion, especially sharia.

[Pickle_mole]

Islamist government? I did not know our laws were based on any religion, especially sharia.

IS AKP not an Islamic Based party? all those generals who were going to commit to a coup must not have had the info you do.

[dogukan]

IS AKP not an Islamic Based party? all those generals who were going to commit to a coup must not have had the info you do.

AKP is not more conservative than American Republican party.
Those generals always find a reason for coup.

[cenkiss]

AKP is not more conservative than American Republican party.
Those generals always find a reason for coup.

Yeah,evil generals.

[Nikos]

Islamic government? I guess you don't know about Turkey's military and their strict secular policy. The Turkish military won't LET Turkey become an Islamic state.

[dogukan]

Its not like Turkey would be a shariatic state without the army..the roots of this tradition goes to a millenia ago. Anatolian Islam is far more different than the Islam in the Arabic world...Islam the Syrians and the Saudis live is very different than each other.

[Nikos]

Its not like Turkey would be a shariatic state without the army..the roots of this tradition goes to a millenia ago. Anatolian Islam is far more different than the Islam in the Arabic world...Islam the Syrians and the Saudis live is very different than each other.

True my man. I never said Turkey would be a Sharia state without the army lol. Just that if any Islamists try a takeover or something similar, that the army would stop them.

[Kiljan Arslan]

You guys are obviously misinformed about the situation in turkey I mean it can't be that people who live there or have relatives in the area would be better informed that a bunch of youtube videos can it?"