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    AequorVirtus's Avatar Laetus
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    Default Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    My top 5,

    1. Destruction/Near destruction of major factions early on in the game - Examples might include Austria getting wiped out by a combined Prussian and Polish attack, France being taken over by the United Provinces or the Swedish wiping out Denmark, Norway, Hannover, Muscovy...
    2. All countries out to destroy one another - It would be nice if the countries were relatively peaceful and not all hungry for land. It's usually the Holy Roman Empire that has all it's kingdoms suddenly turn on each other.
    3. Rip-your-hair-out power of the Pirates - The sheer horror when you realise you are at the mercy of the pirates. Your ships of the line flee uncontrollably at the sight of the Jolly Rodger over the horizon, flying above a fleet of some 12 galleons. You cannot fight the pirates, if you do your ships surrender and they join the pirates. You cannot run from the pirates, you click the retreat button but no, your ships don't retreat into the wide ocean. Instead they retreat to some pathetic pocket of water and you watch with horror as the pirate fleet, slowly moves in for its second kill and all you can do is watch your beautiful fleet of indianmen which took you 12 turns to make, disappear off your computer screen. You can't even hide from the pirates, you lay anchor in the ocean 'surely the fog of war will hide me from their hungry eyes' but.. The pirates are immune to the fog of war and so you wait, sweat running down your face as the other factions take their turns and the sight of the pirate flag appears. Yes, it's the pirates turn now, it's the pirates turn to up your trade.
    4. Unorganised UI listing - When your infantry, cavalry and artillery are all mixed up in the UI and not only that the regiment numbers are mixed up also. Your 5th Regiment of foot is followed by the 8th then 6th and then 7th.
    5. Army of cannons - Countries such as the united provinces and Denmark seem to invest their time in the construction of cannons, but there is a reason why. It's the same with all countries such as these which have a large income from their trade, just one blockade will see the end to all trade and so their army is cut back. Then in some frantic AI logic they steadily construct a whole host of sakers, demi cannons and 24 lbers.


    No need to put such detailed descriptions as me

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1. One town lands. France for example consists of just one town - Paris.
    2. Constant world war. There were only 2 of them but yet in empire all countries seem to be some land/power hungry tyrants that constantly fight each other.
    3. Faction defeats. Whats up with that? In reality I thought that countries weren't wiped out like that from the map. The attacking armies were defeated and then peace was signed (most of the time), in empire the only way to get peace is world domination.
    4. 3 full stack armies in small countries like Courland.
    5. Small map. Seriously I want to see all the world not just that little part. Even if I might never fight there, I still want the feeling that there is still some land left.

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1.Sieges - everything about them from the forts to the way AI handles them is just plain wrong.
    2.Clone armies
    3.Reinforcement system
    4.Too few European provinces for France, Spain
    5.Pirates were better in Rome and Medieval 2, they feel to organized in Empire.

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    PIRATES:
    The fact that pirates is an actual faction,expept that you may not talk to them in the diplomacy screen.I have seen Spain fall,and Hispanola and another carib island remerge as pirates after the pirates where whiped off the planets surface.The real pirates didnt own whole large islands back then,they had small bases hidden away in bays and so on...
    INMORTAL TROOPS ONBOARD TO SMALL SHIPS:
    I also hate that a large army can be transported across sea by a a sloop or two,and EVEN IF you sink one sloop,the whole army remains intact....how dumb isn`t that?Can anyone imagine 400 horsemen,lots of arty, and line infantry fitting in a ship not even big enough for an large car AFTER a seabattle...that is pretty impressive!All other Strategy games that I have played has a limit for how many troops that fitts in a ship,I remember that Centrurion on AMIGA 500 even had this rule,and if your troops where on a fleet that got into a seafight,some of them naturally died.
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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    The Maratha empire too strong in campaign, while the Maratha roster is the worst (no skirmishers) in MP. Ottoman armies are just groups of bandits, while the armies of Dagestan and Bavaria are virtually the same. Mortars overpowered, shrapnel unrealistic, pirates too annoying but completely disappear after you capture a few islands.....

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1. The way that once any big wars start 10 factions have been wiped off the map after 20 turns - normally Crimea/UnitedProvinces/Portugal/German states/Mughals/Georgia/Dagestan/Persia

    2. Maratha uberpowering. They normally have all of India within 7-10 years and then its all madness from there. The only way I've stopped them is to ally and trade with them early on, then cut across India to separate them from the Mughals, before taking the rest of the Mughal Empire. Hopefully then they are friendly enough not to start on you.

    3. Lack of territories - China/Japan/most of S.America/Africa/Australasia are all completely non existent. Trade theatres don't count - the UP and Spanish don't have the most important parts of their empires.

    4. Ease of conquering a major foreign capital - Even as a downscaled simulation being able to send in a 20 unit army and take London/Paris etc is just silly when they have multiple million populations. Those guys aren't going to just stand there as you "destroy their faction".

    5. Pirate rapeage

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    Steam, Steam , Steam, Steam and Steam

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by eXistenZ View Post
    Steam, Steam , Steam, Steam and Steam

    ...yup

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    Hi there.
    First off, ediko, France has two regions, Elsass Lothringen and, well guess.
    1) AI pestering me with totally useless bargins, just to turn down my "monkey infested, brainless and insulting" proposals afterwards.
    2) Over-powered minor nations.
    3) Unbalanced campaign AI.
    4) STEAM.
    5) Reinforcement system.
    Y.S.
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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MortenJessen View Post
    Hi there.
    First off, ediko, France has two regions, Elsass Lothringen and, well guess.
    Y.S.
    M. Jessen

    actually not thats the perceived notion but all the towns are actually represented (well major ones anyway), if you mouse over a factory or dock or even pleaseure gardens it has the towns name.

    what irritates most players however is the fact that unlike MTW2, there is only one centre of production for each country which is annoying..

    buuuuut i think the way you can recruit troops while campaigning makes up for that, the fact that you dont have to have a governor present in your city is also advantageous.

    There is a simple answer to most if not all the problems lads...

    Solution


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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1. fort battles
    2. full stack spam of one-region factions
    3. pirates
    4. martha domination
    5. rakes always lose against nobles

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1. Fort defense and how your soldiers seem to be lost in their own fort, not to mention when fighting on the wall, where 2 opposing groups meet and look like they're milling about in a cocktail party.
    2. Pirates using overpowered galleons and fluyts.
    3. Naval battles formations, when cutting through a line astern formation, your 3rd or 4th ship will collide with an enemy ship and get stuck, along with a lovely circle formed of the ships behind them.
    4. Courland.
    5. Native American armies speed of engagement, you barely fire 2 rounds of artillery and they're engaged.
    + rep me if I've been useful

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1.Pirates ships that attack and kill you. I mean, in real life, pirates actually RUN when they see the navy.
    2.Lousy enemy tactics. Here's the scene, you got 1 general standing just behind your army while the enemy has the same. You decide your general should just stand behind your army, but he must not engage. You move forward, they stand there. You move closer, they still stand there. You start shooting them from max distance, they start routing a bit. You charge at them, they stare at you wide eyed before getting into square formation just because there is a horse regiment.
    3.Steam. Easy enough to explain.
    4.Stupidity of AI. They see offers like " Hey Marathans! We are enemies but let's say I give you Florida 'cause you love america alright, and you give me the last region you have left other than your capital. OK, I may have troops outside Florida but don't worry, they are for recapturing your erm... towns outside Florida!" and they say "What a nuthead... of course I'll take up your deal!"
    5.Cra py graphics. More lag than you have ever seen. Not even Crysis was that retarded.
    What the hell happened to this WORLD?

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1. Not being able to transfer an admiral from one ship to another.

    2. Not being able to get a Heroic Victory if you choose to continue a battle at the end to run down the routing army.

    3. Naval battles. There's not much real strategy involved and they are SOOOOOOOOOO slow.

    4. Everyone is too warlike. CA needs to decide if they want to make a wargame & have it focus on the battle strategy aspect at the expense of realism & diplomacy, or a game with limited wars but better economy/diplomacy.

    5. Havent found a 5th one just yet, but I've only been playing for a few days now. If the pirates are how they are being described here, I'm sure I'm not going to like them. There was never a pirate fleet that I have heard of that could stand up to an organized fleet from a nation such as Britain....

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1. Turn loading speed.
    2. Random declaration of wars (Don't say "Go buy Napoleon" (Even though I already have it), it hasn't been fixed, just reduced).
    3. A lot of areas important in this era are missing.
    4. Not enough regions in already existing areas.
    5. Crap reinforcement system.

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1. im going with travisk turn loading speed.
    2. sweden, they piss me off because the game made them over powered, by making all the rival pog ass pushover states "denmark, russia"
    3. england, why no matter your nation withen 10 turns theirs a full stack of redcoats at you capital. shouldnt they be in idk america.
    4. mu-gal's, there a wast of space. do they even fight back id like to see em beat maratha just once.
    5. cossacks, thoughs get swords wtf. i want my units to have swords.

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    Found my 5th one:

    5. Cant repair walls. Wth is up with that?

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    Dishonoring Treaties Penalty
    Dishonoring Treaties Penalty
    Dishonoring Treaties Penalty
    Dishonoring Treaties Penalty
    Oh yea, did I mention? Dishonoring Treaties Penalty
    Listen to BayonetFodder gents, Darthmod removes most of the insane AI declarations of war and unfair diplomatic bargains. Now if it could only get rid of the dishonoring treaties penalty...

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    1. CA's lazy research of historical units and unique faction rosters, Where are those damn ponytails? (Atleast CA put historical depht to the units in NTW).
    2. Clone armies
    3. Poor diplomacy (compared to NTW). The rediculous AI proposals also pisses me off.
    4. Incompetent BAI/CAI
    5. Steam

    And the list goes on...

    Thank god for mods!
    Last edited by TheGeat; June 04, 2010 at 04:27 PM.

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    Default Re: Top 5 things that piss you off in Empire

    Well here's a few

    1. I thought I had a pretty decent computer rig, with all the right drivers and graphics card, etc, I mean I play Modern Warfare 2 without any issue, but with Empire, battles are just buggy even at the lowest settings
    2. I have DMUC, but I still can't stay at peace for more than five turns
    3. Incredibly expensive to build a Navy, and hard to keep trade routes open, killing my economy.(This actually makes the game challenging, I'm not necessarily complaining about this one, I just find it annoying and I need to overcome it)
    4. Naval battles are boring without a ton of ships, and you HAVE to play them or else you will lose no matter what, cause apparently your admiral is too dumb to take out one enemy sloop without losing more than half his crew
    5. Did I mention the graphics? lol, that just pisses me off, I mean I have a GOOD COMPUTER!!

    But overall I do enjoy the game, especially with DMUC, and I still have yet to finish a campaign.

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