Political Census

[First Crusader]

PLEASE TAKE THE TEST FIRST! SEE LINK!

There are many polls in this section of the forum - so it would be interesting to know how many of each political doctrine are participating in these polls.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

EDIT: Thanks for the link, Guderian!

[Lord Rahl]

Far Right

[Belisarius]

Liberal, Middle on some issues and Right on one or two.

[MareNostrum]

poll edited...

a slight change..

[Torment]

Why always the American terms? Yet again socialism is missing, and 'conservatism' is an ambiguous term (but obviously it once again means conservatism a lá America). I see myself as rather 'conservative' as well, but I'm certainly not going to choose that option here...

[First Crusader]

Why always the American terms? Yet again socialism is missing, and 'conservatism' is an ambiguous term (but obviously it once again means conservatism a lá America). I see myself as rather 'conservative' as well, but I'm certainly not going to choose that option here...

A socialist can just choose the "liberal" or "far left" options. "Socialist" and "liberal" generally mean the same thing.

What is wrong with the "conservative" option? I know that Europe is farther to the left than the US - but there is nothing wrong with choosing "conservative".

[Torment]

Give a definition of 'conservative'.

[First Crusader]

Give a definition of 'conservative'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

Conservatism is a major political philosophy supporting traditional values or an established social order. As the word implies, conservatives seek to conserve the existing social order or to reinstate an ideal social order now in decline.

Most conservative parties are on the political right, but there are countries where a conservative party falls on the left. Conservatism as a philosophy is much older than the left-right division, and it can include adherents from both. In the Netherlands, for example, defenders of ‘Dutch tolerance’ as a traditional national value and Islamist supporters of Sharia law both call themselves conservatives.

In English-speaking countries, conservatism often refers to a political philosophy presented by English statesman Edmund Burke. Burkean conservatives wish to conserve heritage; they advocate the current social climate. To a Burkean, any existing value or institution has undergone the correcting influence of past experience and ought to be respected. Burkeans do not reject change, as Burke wrote "a state without the means of change is without the means of its conservation," but they insist that further change be organic, rather than revolutionary.

[Nationalist_Cause]

Conservative in the traditional American sense:
Economic Nationalism, regulated immigration, cautious and modest foreign policy of non-intervention (sometimes referred to as isolation by the uneducated), pro-life, small government at every level, low taxes, and strict interpretation of the Constitution.

This could fall into conservative or far right, depending on your outlook. I voted conservative.

[Guderian]

First crusader perhaps you should include this site on the first post and suggest everyone take the test...

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

[Guderian]

According to the site my political views are Libertarian Left.

[Atheist Peace]

Liberal...some of my views are probably extreme left...i hate governments tampering with people's lives (which conservatives love)...I tend to lean more towards capitalism/socialism than communism...I am pro-civil rights for most 'groups' of people, but hate minority pandering and differentiating politicians, judges, etc based on sex, race, etc...I am not patriotic, and think nationalism is a horrible thing...

and I could go on i suppose, but it's not really to a point.

[First Crusader]

Liberal...some of my views are probably extreme left...i hate governments tampering with people's lives (which conservatives love)...I tend to lean more towards capitalism/socialism than communism...I am pro-civil rights for most 'groups' of people, but hate minority pandering and differentiating politicians, judges, etc based on sex, race, etc...I am not patriotic, and think nationalism is a horrible thing...

and I could go on i suppose, but it's not really to a point.

I recomend the "liberal" option. You should also take the test on Guderian's link. It is really cool!

[Muizer]

I recomend the "liberal" option. You should also take the test on Guderian's link. It is really cool!

I'm not sure where the poll will lead when the options don't match up with the terminology of the test. I'm "far left" by most standards though, as I plot somewhere in the vicinity of Ghandi on the political compass.

Muizer

[Romanos]

I am more of a Neo-liberalism. I guess

[Nationalist_Cause]

Liberal...some of my views are probably extreme left...i hate governments tampering with people's lives (which conservatives love)

Now wait a second. You said that you lean more towards socialism, a system which provides all sorts of safety nets for people unfortunate enough to be unemployed or to be fired, or to have too many children out of wedlock, etc. Now how does the government come up with money to finance these safety nets? Through extensive taxation and "tampering" with the economic freedom of its citizens of course!

Governemts of all types tamper with people's lives, but in different ways and to different degrees.

[Atheist Peace]

Now wait a second. You said that you lean more towards socialism, a system which provides all sorts of safety nets for people unfortunate enough to be unemployed or to be fired, or to have too many children out of wedlock, etc. Now how does the government come up with money to finance these safety nets? Through extensive taxation and "tampering" with the economic freedom of its citizens of course!

Governemts of all types tamper with people's lives, but in different ways and to different degrees.

I lean more towards capitalism with some programs to help people, like welfare, which is touching on socialistic policies. That is not the government tampering in people's lives, like the current american government likes to do.

[Nationalist_Cause]

I lean more towards capitalism with some programs to help people, like welfare, which is touching on socialistic policies. That is not the government tampering in people's lives, like the current american government likes to do.

But the support of welfare is tampering with people's lives. A fraction of the taxpayer's tax money will go to support some sort of welfare. If it were up to me, I would have the option to give money to the poor or keep it all to myself. But I don't have this option. The government takes the money, and allocates a certain amount to supporting my fellow citizen (or illegal immigrant if you live in California). If I chose not to give money to the poor on my own and let them starve, some would call me immoral. So you advocate the government stepping in to make a moral decision for me.

[Torment]

Oh well, took the test: -0.5 and 3.1. Amusing...

[crazyhorse]

Social 2.5
Economic -0.25
This is different than other polls I've taken. I didn't like the wording of some of the questions. I'd figure to be normally about a 1.0 economically. As you can see, much more conservative socially but not far right. I'm relatively pleased.