Getting a new computer

[Eöl]

hello,
its is my birthday in a few days and my parents said I may choose a new computer. YAAAJ!!!
My budget is about 800- 900 euros, but if there is good deal, it might get raised a bit
I allready have a good screen. A better screen wouldn't hurt, but I prefer just a good computers instead of a medium computer and a medium screen

I want a gaming/multimedia computer with windows 7. CAn anyone help me point out a nice deal or a good computer??
I really like the hp pavillion 6370 for now.

Thank you very much allready for your help

[Bartzy]

Why not read about parts, find them discounted from Computer Shops etc?
That is what I Did

I found couple of links : http://www.mycom.nl/Products/377.aspx

http://dir.yahoo.com/Business_and_Ec.../Complete_List

[Eöl]

I know what everything in a computer does, but I hear a lot that somebody bought a computer with 6 gb mb ram and then he finds out that is 2gb is useless, because he doesn't has the right processor or something. I want to avoid this

So can someone (who can read dutch) say if this is a good deal, computer??
http://www.chear.nl/Chear_Computers/...hear_Computers

I am also unsure about choosing different components for a computer, because I really don't know if I will make a right decsision and it seems more expensive to me

[Awqa Puriq]

I know what everything in a computer does, but I hear a lot that somebody bought a computer with 6 gb mb ram and then he finds out that is 2gb is useless, because he doesn't has the right processor or something. I want to avoid this

I believe that's only if you are using a 32bit OS. I don't think the processor has anything to do with that.

I am also unsure about choosing different components for a computer, because I really don't know if I will make a right decsision and it seems more expensive to me

Well are you gonna buy a pre-built PC or are you planning to build one yourself?

Pre-built PC:
Pros - Already Built
Cons - More Expensive, cheap brand parts, not knowing exactly what goes into the PC, could have amateur cable management job.

Custom Built:
Pros - Cheaper, Good brand parts you choose yourself, Building it to fit your needs, each part brings it's own warranty, better cable management (needed for better airflow) FUN
Cons - Breaking a part by accident if not careful.

[Jagdpanzer]

If you want to know which Dutch computer store is good then I can recommend Paradigit computers. Their service is really good and they were elected as best computer chain of stores in the Netherlands four years in a row.

[The Dutch Devil]

Looked through the add eol and the video card kinda like sucks. If you're gonna play at that resolution I suggest you get a PC with a GTS 250 or higher (don't know the ATI equivalent but it should be good to).

[Freddie]

I know a lot about computers but I'm not familiar with Dutch hardware sites, the only think I can suggest is if you want to do a self build use a site like komplett.

[abbews]

I know a lot about computers but I'm not familiar with Dutch hardware sites, the only think I can suggest is if you want to do a self build use a site like komplett.

I thought komplett was a Swedish online store?

[Kawee]

You forgot the custom build PC.

Pro: It's customised by you, for you. More and better choices than pre-built
Con: Expensive, not as many choices as building it yourself
Other: Not sure about the warranty

[Odinarius]

900€ should get you an awesome computer.

If you buy the parts at the same store, they should assemble the comp for you.

Don`t go for prebuilt ones as they almost always lack something.

Tell us, do you need a monitor, peripherals (keyboard, mouse) and how quiet do you want it to be (this might raise the cost and it`s completely unnecessary for normal work. That didn`t stop me from spending 200€ to silence mine, though).

[Eöl]

If you want to know which Dutch computer store is good then I can recommend Paradigit computers. Their service is really good and they were elected as best computer chain of stores in the Netherlands four years in a row.

Thanks for the link

Looked through the add eol and the video card kinda like sucks. If you're gonna play at that resolution I suggest you get a PC with a GTS 250 or higher (don't know the ATI equivalent but it should be good to).

Yes, I need a good video card

I know a lot about computers but I'm not familiar with Dutch hardware sites, the only think I can suggest is if you want to do a self build use a site like komplett.

thanks

I believe that's only if you are using a 32bit OS. I don't think the processor has anything to do with that.

Well are you gonna buy a pre-built PC or are you planning to build one yourself?

Pre-built PC:
Pros - Already Built
Cons - More Expensive, cheap brand parts, not knowing exactly what goes into the PC, could have amateur cable management job.

Custom Built:
Pros - Cheaper, Good brand parts you choose yourself, Building it to fit your needs, each part brings it's own warranty, better cable management (needed for better airflow) FUN
Cons - Breaking a part by accident if not careful.

I can't build one myself, nor will I try it

You forgot the custom build PC.

Pro: It's customised by you, for you. More and better choices than pre-built
Con: Expensive, not as many choices as building it yourself
Other: Not sure about the warranty

Think I will do this though

900€ should get you an awesome computer.

If you buy the parts at the same store, they should assemble the comp for you.

Don`t go for prebuilt ones as they almost always lack something.

Tell us, do you need a monitor, peripherals (keyboard, mouse) and how quiet do you want it to be (this might raise the cost and it`s completely unnecessary for normal work. That didn`t stop me from spending 200€ to silence mine, though).

I can use a monitor if for example it is a great deal off about 1100- 1200 euro combined with the pc.
I don't care about how quiet it is. Though it must be cooled and ventilated good, because I don't want a broken computer in 2 years.

Is the standard alienware aurora a good computer?

[HansDuet]

Knowing alienware its overpriced and looks terrible, but has good specs.

[Odinarius]

This is a decent and up-to-date guide:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/buy...ide-may-2010/1

[Eöl]

A friend of mine made a nice list for a custom pc on alternate.nl . It includes a very good monitor too
What do you guys think?? Thank you for your answers in advance
Thanks for the quide, btw !!!!

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CPUs Koelers
Arctic-Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2
Art.-Nr.:HPLC15
775, 939, AM2, AM2+, 1366, 1156, AM3, 77 m³/h

1
€ 21,99*
€ 21,99*


Grafische kaarten ATI Radeon HD5000
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1
€ 124,90*
€ 124,90*


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€ 79,90*


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1
€ 199,90*
€ 199,90*


• Boxed Koeler (ATX Layout, PWM)

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Monitoren 22 inch
LG E2240T-PN
Art.-Nr.:V5LKL1
54,6 cm, 1920x1080 pixels, 5 ms (ISO), 1000 : 1

1
€ 179,90*
€ 179,90*


Voedingen meer dan 600 Watt
Cooler Master RealPower M620
Art.-Nr.:TN6M40
620 Watt, ATX12V 2.2, EPS, 6 x, 6 x

1
€ 77,90*
€ 77,90*


Behuizingen Midi Tower
Cooler Master Gladiator 600
Art.-Nr.:TQXM38
5x 5,25" extern, 5x 3,5" intern, ATX, µATX

1
€ 49,99*
€ 49,99*


• fan 140mm 140 mm

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• 3,5"-Floppy op 5,25" Schacht

1



Blu-ray Combo Serial-ATA
Samsung SH-B083L
Art.-Nr.:CEBU51
8 speed, 16 / 8 / 8 speed, Serial ATA/150, 16 / 48 speed

1
€ 84,90*
€ 84,90*


Moederborden Socket 1156
Asus P7P55 LX
Art.-Nr.:GUEA12
Intel® P55, ATX, 2x PCIe x16 v2.0, CrossFire, 1156

1
€ 97,90*
€ 97,90*


• VIA 6415 maximaal 2 apparaten, 133 MB/s

1

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1

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1

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1
€ 84,90*
€ 84,90*


Geheugen DDR3-1333
Kingston ValueRAM 6 GB DDR3-1333 Tri-Kit
Art.-Nr.:ICIF27
6144 MB, CL9 9-9-36, 3 stuk(s), PC3 10600

1
€ 152,90*
€ 152,90*



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€ 1.155,08*

[Odinarius]

Your friend made quite a mistake there

Your motherboard is dual-channel, and memory he recommended is triple channel.

4 GB of RAM is enough for now, and you can easily upgrade to 8 in two years or so when it becomes a chokepoint.

GPU is relatively weak... 5770 is a much better bet, and I would stretch to 5850 if possible in any way. It`s worth extra money, trust me, gotta put that shiny monitor to good use

And think about blu-ray. Unless you are certain you are going to watch movies on it, you are wasting 50€ there.

[Eöl]

thanks Odinarius!

I think I found something nice: The acer Aspire M7721.
Here are the main specifications:

Intel Core i7-920
3 x 2048 gb ram memory (maximum is 12gb)
DDR3 SDRAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT330
Intel X58 Express
Blu-ray rom
2tb memory
Dedicated video memory 2048

As you can see the main problem is that the video card isn't very good. But I think the computer is very good for expanding in a few years.
Please give suggestions or reactions

[karamazovmm]

it is good depending on the price. If you'll buy it, change the GPU and a change in the PSU might be needed as well
a 5850 is very good atm

[Eöl]

it is good depending on the price. If you'll buy it, change the GPU and a change in the PSU might be needed as well
a 5850 is very good atm

Isn't changing that impossible? Heard somewhere that if you change the video card in a pre-made system, the computer won't recognise this hardware. Am I right or not???

[Wheelchair]

Isn't changing that impossible? Heard somewhere that if you change the video card in a pre-made system, the computer won't recognise this hardware. Am I right or not???

Uhm, what? So much mis-information spreading around.

That's incorrect, a pre-made system is exactly the same as if you put it together yourself.

[The Dutch Devil]

Well it depends if the mobo can handle the GPU and in this case the Intel X58 can "handle" the 5850 since it's a pretty standard mobo.