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    Default Eros is the god of bisexual love?

    I mean the goddess of love was Aphrodite ,what Eros was for?
    It looks like the more Greeks were getting civilised the more they needed God of bisexual love .
    They sat in cities doing little work refining their feelings and simple peasant way to get on female and impregnate her was not already to their like . Generally, Greek statues are not so bisexual ,but Roman are obviously are . Check even the Greek Eros statue out.The athletic part so common to Greek statues(even Appolo has some muscle) has gone the lack of tits(you can even find some male tits on some Roman effigies)is only the thing to pronounce male-ness ,but otherwisse all to pleasing look ,hardly can be called strictly male.

    But it is not that easy the very emphatic males ,when they in love with young women, can turn to be very effiminated just to copy the object of their love,it could be that Greeks tried to represent this in Eros .

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    I thought God of bisexual love is Slaanesh??
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    Default Re: Eros is the god of bisexual love?

    You were wrong....
    ,dear

    P.S. Ofc this topic requires intillegence ,and more then that the degree of education. The statues you can Google are few and not even those I meant ,where you can find the specialists in the ancient arts nowdays...?
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    Last edited by Edelward; May 29, 2010 at 03:55 PM.
    Fitz Salnarville, Duke William's favourite knyghte,
    To noble Edelwarde his life dyd yielde;
    Withe hys tylte launce hee stroke with thilk a myghte,
    The Norman's bowels steemde upon the feeld.
    Old Salnarville beheld hys son lie ded, 235
    Against Erie Edelward his bowe-strynge drewe;
    But Harold at one blowe made tweine his head;
    He dy'd before the poignant arrowe flew.
    So was the hope of all the issue gone,
    And in one battle fell the sire and son
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelward View Post
    Generally, Greek statues are not so bisexual ,but Roman are obviously are .
    On the contrary, it was the Greek Eros that was a teenage youth.

    The Roman Cupid was always an infant baby, or very young (and always with female Psyche by his side, never homosexual overtones):



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    Quote Originally Posted by SigniferOne View Post
    On the contrary, it was the Greek Eros that was a teenage youth.

    The Roman Cupid was always an infant baby, or very young (and always with female Psyche by his side, never homosexual overtones):
    No the statue of young Cupid is the one you could Google
    I have seen another,Roman, statues of Eros too and they described him as God of erotic including bisexuality. You must know how eventual mythology works ,my friend. Let me explain it to you . Ancients haven't had the books like we have now with the names like *The manual in mythology for believing pagans*. No-no-no it worked so :every province and every temple has their own local patron deity and set of local legends to attach to him/her . So Appolo for example from Cyrenaica had many different traits then Appolo from Smyrna ,type of thing.
    Cupid legend spread mayhap, but ...no Eros was god of bisexuality too think it was in later, more decadent period-Imperial.

    Even this one does not strike like no bisexual :

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...apoli_6353.jpg
    Muscles are not developed but made to look pleasing etc etc

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    If someone can locate that book . I think it was be translated to English .It is a compilation of professorial lectures.
    'Mann und Frau' zweiten Band ' I've read translated version, it is printed circa 1890
    Last edited by Edelward; June 01, 2010 at 12:58 PM.
    Fitz Salnarville, Duke William's favourite knyghte,
    To noble Edelwarde his life dyd yielde;
    Withe hys tylte launce hee stroke with thilk a myghte,
    The Norman's bowels steemde upon the feeld.
    Old Salnarville beheld hys son lie ded, 235
    Against Erie Edelward his bowe-strynge drewe;
    But Harold at one blowe made tweine his head;
    He dy'd before the poignant arrowe flew.
    So was the hope of all the issue gone,
    And in one battle fell the sire and son
    .

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    Default Re: Eros is the god of bisexual love?

    Imo is simply a specialization on a certain concept, here love. Eros is often cited as son of Aphrodite and Ares and is solely concerned with bodily love or the more basic instinct aka sex. Aphrodite is responsible for a broader spectrum of love including beauty, the emotion itself, attraction. She kinda covers a broader spectrum with a focus on the more refined, civilized aspect. As Eros was responsible for mainly lust regardless of circumstance one could consider him covering bisexual love or being bisexual but I would rather see it that the Greek pantheon grew more complex as their philosophical classification of concepts and ideas grew more complex. Him being potentially bisexual is simply the logical conclusion of the idea associated with him.

    It's a bit like Ares and Athena, I'd guess. They both cover war but from two entirely different angles (the event of war vs the art of war )
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    Default Re: Eros is the god of bisexual love?

    Merely because Aphrodite is the primary goddess of love does not mean there can't be other deities of the same patronage. Overlapping areas of responsibility are common in terrestrial bureaucracies, so why not the same for celestial bureaucracies.

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    Default Re: Eros is the god of bisexual love?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaximiIian View Post
    Merely because Aphrodite is the primary goddess of love does not mean there can't be other deities of the same patronage. Overlapping areas of responsibility are common in terrestrial bureaucracies, so why not the same for celestial bureaucracies.
    hehe, even mount olympus is inefficient!

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    Default Re: Eros is the god of bisexual love?

    I agree with Mangalore and Maximilian here. Overlapping is perfectly fine.

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    Default Re: Eros is the god of bisexual love?

    I can think that some kind of pederastic relationships amongst greeks were more on the side of Eros than on the Aphrodite's side, also i highly disagree with Mangalore point of view, id say that Eros is not only sex, in fact Aphrodite Pandemo, daughter of Dione and Zeus is often recorded as the ''carnal love'' you are thinking about.

    Also i think we are abusing of our contemporany concepts here, and this obviously will affect the awnsers to our question, i mean, was sexuality in ancient greece the same in all the social categories? what were the diference between homosexual, bisexual and pederasty, active/pasive roles in homosexual relations?...

    And the most important, Was Eros a true god? Elsewhere with the same atributes?.

    I agree with Edelward.

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