Will there be single units in the next version?

[Saint777]

I was wondering if in the next version there is going to be Single units like the Balrog or only 8 nazgul instead of 10? And if this is the wrong place could you please direct me to the right one? thanks

[Louis Lux]

I believe so, KK mentioned he got it to work with Sauron. Don't know what you mean by 10 nazgul, there are just 9 nazgul generals and there is no nazgul unit afaik.

[Saint777]

Awsome! With the Nazgul does it matter what what i have my unit size set to army? and there is a Nazgul unit in the 1.41 version im using.

[Louis Lux]

A nazgul unit, all of them with black hoods? Don't remember seeing this, I've just seen it in a additional units sub mod.

[Point Blank]

A nazgul unit, all of them with black hoods? Don't remember seeing this, I've just seen it in a additional units sub mod.

There is one in EDU of nazgul on foot, you can make it available for custom battles.

[Saint777]

Yes a nazgul unit. I'll try posting a pic (if i can figure out how) sometime today.

[Saint777]

oh also im pretty sure the nazgul units are bodygaurds. I know you can see them in the custom battle screen.

[Shocked]

There is one dismounted Nazgul unit that you can only use in custom battles, but thats about it

[Saint777]

hmm i could have sworn there was a whole unit. Oh well my question has been answered. Thanks guys.

[TheXand]

I'd rather not have single units to be honest, I think that generals and the like would be better aesthetically and gameplaywise with bodyguards. I've no problem with seeing multiple Nazgul or Balrogs in units bigger than 1 individual either.

[Mac-Picsou]

I think that KK annouced that there will be three balrog per unit now.
I would like to see less trolls in a unit too. I found the big trolls regiment not very..realist, i don't know, it give me a bad lore feeling .

[Shocked]

I think the trolls are fine, we just need less balrogs in a unit. Also the 1 man unit thing would only really work with Sauron.. he is the only one powerful enough to survive by himself (apart from balrog)

[jinjo]

I think the trolls are fine, we just need less balrogs in a unit. Also the 1 man unit thing would only really work with Sauron.. he is the only one powerful enough to survive by himself (apart from balrog)

i think gandalf is powerful to survivie alone, at least he killed balrog

[Shocked]

i think gandalf is powerful to survivie alone, at least he killed balrog

Haha as if, if he was standing alone out in the open, with 100 orcs attacking him at once he would perish , in game especially lollol

[son of romans]

I think the trolls are fine, we just need less balrogs in a unit. Also the 1 man unit thing would only really work with Sauron.. he is the only one powerful enough to survive by himself (apart from balrog)

Yes, one Balrog the last in his kind and he must die

[Seleukos_I.]

MBA mentioned that what they worked out for Sauron did not work in the campaign, but they are working on a trick to fix it so elt's hope they'll sort it out.
I believe that only Sauorn and the Balrog should be single units. All the other units would be too weak.

[MasterBigAb]

MBA mentioned that what they worked out for Sauron did not work in the campaign, but they are working on a trick to fix it so elt's hope they'll sort it out.
I believe that only Sauorn and the Balrog should be single units. All the other units would be too weak.

I agree, and to be honest, it still stands written in the stars whether "we" will be able to make single man units or not...
I had the idea of making the banner carrier of a very small unit to a special one, so you'd get for example one balrog with a few orcs or trolls, same for sauron, him and nazguls or trolls as "bodyguards" - but it turned out that they fall first and the stats seem not to be changable....
Makeing this special unit general is also not possible as you cannot change the size of a general (hardcoded as far as i know) and as already mentioned, the single man method of the CoW team only works for custom battle so far... so let's wait and hope, may be there will be found some kind of possibility...

[paradamed]

I agree, and to be honest, it still stands written in the stars whether "we" will be able to make single man units or not...
I had the idea of making the banner carrier of a very small unit to a special one, so you'd get for example one balrog with a few orcs or trolls, same for sauron, him and nazguls or trolls as "bodyguards" - but it turned out that they fall first and the stats seem not to be changable....
Makeing this special unit general is also not possible as you cannot change the size of a general (hardcoded as far as i know) and as already mentioned, the single man method of the CoW team only works for custom battle so far... so let's wait and hope, may be there will be found some kind of possibility...

Bad news.

[Lordinquisitor]

It sounded too good. How long have modders from all over the world tried to make single units? And yet it never really worked, and the possibilities to change stuff are ultimately limited.

Maybe it will still work.

But after all; Single units would be a nice addition, but not a very important one.

[MasterBigAb]

It sounded too good. How long have modders from all over the world tried to make single units? And yet it never really worked, and the possibilities to change stuff are ultimately limited.

Maybe it will still work.

But after all; Single units would be a nice addition, but not a very important one.

Still it is/would be sad having a sauron (and an event vid) done for nothing....