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  1. May 26, 2010, 05:09 AM #1
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    Default Scandinavia - Consisten Union or Antiunion. What would the result be today?

    • What do you think would happend if Scandinavia would not become a union back in the middle ages?
      • Would it change the end result (today)?

    • What do you think would happend if Scandinava was still be a union today? Would it have more imperial traits or oppression for it's own "nations"?
    Iceland? Greenland? Isle of Man? Orkney? Faroe Island? Shetland? Finland?

    History of Scandinavia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_Age
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christi...of_Scandinavia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmar_Union
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandin...Monetary_Union
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_defence_union
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Council

    The black line is the most probable economic zone had there still been a unification today.


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  2. May 26, 2010, 05:51 AM #2
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    Default Re: Scandinavia - Consisten Union or Antiunion. What would the result be today?

    A continued union would have been best for everyone, not just Scandinavians. When you leave Danes alone for too long they get bored and start drawing.

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    Default Re: Scandinavia - Consisten Union or Antiunion. What would the result be today?

    Its good but whole European Union is better.

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  4. May 26, 2010, 07:28 AM #4
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    Default Re: Scandinavia - Consisten Union or Antiunion. What would the result be today?

    A Nordic confederacy of some sort, with national autonomy but co-ordinated foreign and defence policy, may be even mutual labour markets, etc. Would be awesome and much better than the EU, assuming we get rid of the current political climate..

    I think it is better, though, that the Kalmar Union fell apart. Sweden would eventually have dominated and begun to, in its centralistic fashion, integrate the other parts into a Greater-Sweden.
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  5. May 28, 2010, 11:05 AM #5
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    Default Re: Scandinavia - Consisten Union or Antiunion. What would the result be today?

    I agree with Wilpuri, if it was too closely knit then it would be kind of like Sweden on steroids, but a loose confederation of those nations working together with joint initiatives that could span the whole group, socially, economically and militarily would be extremely properous in my opinion.
    I'm not sure how that would be represented in the EU though, they could have joint representation if they were all investing in each other's interests.
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